Experience with Man to Man Escorts in San Diego?

[Guest Merlin]

Has anyone had experience with Man to Man Escorts in San Diego.They have some terrific looking escorts, but perhaps too good to be true.

[Guest jc92103]

Yes I have dealt with them in the past. I have expressed my views here but always get nasty e-mails in return. The last time I checked this WAS a review site afterall. Since you asked; my experience was a total nightmare. The escort arrived quite late and asked for the money upfront. As usual from an agency, the price went up for each additional request. I'm sure that some of the guys are ok, mine was a total ripoff! My advice is to stick with the ads in Update, G & L Times or Buzz. Anyway, these are my opinions and I am free to express them in this forum...take it for what it's worth. I'm not interested in getting into another bitch fest with the owner of the agency. I just want everyone to know that I was ripped off by them.

[Guest Kenny]

I thoroughly agree with you. If you have a bad experience, say so.

[+ deej]

I'm not going to presume who is right here. This is, after all, he-said/he-said.

 

But I've just received private e-mail from ManToManEscorts@aol.com saying that JC92103 is conducting a personal vendetta against his business and has been kicked off another site for similar behavior.

 

According to Dave, JC92103 has never been a customer of Man to Man Escorts.

 

Will wait to hear from the investigations division (HooBoy) how to proceed, but read this thread with a huge grain of salt until investigations are complete.

 

There's a big flag on the play but it's unclear where and I have a dinner date. I just wanted to let everyone know.

[Guest ManToManEscorts]

Good Morning, Guys!

 

Dave here, owner of Man To Man Escorts in San Diego. Just wanted to let all of you know that this "JC92103" character is NOT nor has ever been a customer of my company. Either he is an outright liar, or, I will give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he confused my company with some other Agency here in SD. First of all, my escorts DO NOT ask for tips up front to do certain things, they are on time 99% of the time, and rarely do they ask the client to pay upon arrival. In another thread on this message board, he accused me of faking a pic of one of my top escorts, Ryan, on my website, until a review of Ryan by a satisfied customer appeared on this site, thus exposing the fraud (see So Cal, Ryan #2). I challenge "JC92103" to stop hiding under the cloak of anonymity, and post the following info: 1)date/time of the supposed assignment, 2)Escort booked, and 3)price quoted. If indeed this is a legitimate complaint, I will gladly refund his money. If the complaint is bogus, then an apology and a retraction are in order.

 

In answer to the title of this thread, I want you to know that this Agency is NOT too good to be true, and indeed I have been fortunate to find some terrific guys to work for me. (see Reviews of Ryan #2, Christopher #2, and Michael Johnson - new). I am delighted with my repeat client base, and look forward to providing the best service I can in an honest and professional manner. Hopefully some of these clients will read this and come forth with their own positive feedback to refute the above-mentioned claims. Until then, I urge you all to shoot me an E-mail or call me anytime should you have any concerns anout hiring one of my hot guys!

 

Thanks for taking the time to read this! I look forward to hearing from you!

[+ deej]

It appears, on investigation, that Dave of Man to Man Escorts is on the level.

 

HooBoy has spoken with him on the phone and he seems to be honestly trying to build a reputable agency in San Diego. (A breath of fresh air after that "other" one!) Indeed, Dave's own response here seems reasonable and considered.

 

Until evidence to the contrary is provided, I think we can discount JC92103's remarks.

[Guest Rottfan]

I've used Dave's service several times now and have been very pleased (hence my repeat business). His guys NEVER ask for money up front; you know what to expect from each guy before he arrives (just ask Dave--he tells you beforehand what to expect); and the guys seem genuinely concerned about pleasing the client. And--the photos of his guys (at least the ones I've been with) are 100% accurate.

[BewareofNick]

>I've used Dave's service several times

>now and have been very

>pleased (hence my repeat business).

>His guys NEVER ask for

>money up front; you know

>what to expect from each

>guy before he arrives (just

>ask Dave--he tells you beforehand

>what to expect); and the

>guys seem genuinely concerned about

>pleasing the client. And--the photos

>of his guys (at least

>the ones I've been with)

>are 100% accurate.

 

 

excuse, playing through...

[Guest Easy]

You know, I don't understand people who trash people for no reason! I can only tell you this....I am a man who has a great deal of experience with Man to Man Escorts in SD and could not be happier. What is important to me is intregrity. I am a man who is who I say I am....and I want to deal with others who are the same. I cannot speak for anyone else, but my experience with Dave and Man to Man has only been the best. I found the men to be honest, giving and hot! I am not a wealthy man, so I can tell you HONESTLY that I would not pay the price over and over if these men and this agency were not all they claim to be and MORE! You don't know me, but I know this agency and these men. If you will read my posts on this site earlier, "Has anyone heard of Man to Man escorts in SD?" you will know I was skeptical also. I just spent four weeks in SD. Arrived home yesterday. Thanks to MtoM, this was my best visit to SD EVER. If you have any questions, write me direct and I will answer any question you may have HONESTLY from my own personal experience. I don't know the negitive response here, but I do know my own experience and I can tell you that Dave, the owner, was extremely honest and open with me. I believe he will be with you as well. I simply invite you to talk with Dave personally. I think he will ease any apprehension you may have. I am so glad i did! A VERY happy man!

[+ deej]

>excuse, playing through...

 

Care to *add* anything of substance or just wanna take pot shots?

 

Sorry, BON, I like your contributions here but right now you're harping with nothing much to contribute except making the board scroll faster. It does that quite well by itself, thank you.

 

What do you really have to say?

[BewareofNick]

>>excuse, playing through...

>

>Care to *add* anything of substance

>or just wanna take pot

>shots?

>

>Sorry, BON, I like your contributions

>here but right now you're

>harping with nothing much to

>contribute except making the board

>scroll faster. It does that

>quite well by itself, thank

>you.

>

>What do you really have to

>say?

 

 

Well, thanks for asking

 

First off, the reason I posted in each thread was because the only icon next to each profile was the IP address one. It appears to me that the presence of all four icons (or just the one) depends upon the last person who posted. Once I posted, it went from one icon to all four. I did this to be able to determine the e-mail addresses of the posters. I have nothing to report yet, other than two of the posters have the same e-mail address.

 

Now, i know i may be just a cynical old queen here, but didn't the presence of mantomanescorts in three subject lines seem a little convenient to you? We have a dispute and all of the sudden, here's all the mantomanescort fans popping out of the woodwrk, several with no prior posts. Coincidence? Perhaps.

 

To quote my idol, Fox Mulder, "The truth IS out there..."

[Guest TheOriginalMessage]

>Good Morning, Guys!

>

>Dave here, owner of Man To

>Man Escorts in San Diego.

 

I have not used Dave's agency and this is by choice. I live in so. cal. and was about to give them a call when i noticed a huge red flag.

 

FIRST: the agency's aol profile is:

Member Name: Dave (Man To Man Escorts)

Location: San Diego, Palm Springs, Orange County and Nationwide

Hobbies: Discreet, Reliable, Friendly, Professional --HOT SELECTION!

Computers: Not associated with any other past or present Agency

Occupation: always offering employment :-) call me! Must be masculine and discreet! str8/bi OK

Personal Quote: hottest Men in So Cal. put a "dot.com" after screen name! Enjoy!

 

NOTICE the line "Not associated with any other past or present Agency"

-------------------------------------------------

 

SECOND:Now this is a copy and paste from the welcome page to their web site: Hi Guys!

 

Thank you for visiting the site of San Diego's most professional and reliable

Escort Service for discriminating men. I have been in the business for 6+

years, and have established a high-end, repeat clientele who have come to

expect only the best in discreet male companionship.

 

NOTICE the line "I have been in the business for 6+

years"

------------------------------------------------

 

NOW a few questions come to mind. if you have had no association past or present just what business have you been in for 6 years? And if this is an agency that you were involved in which one? Could it be the one that ripped off countless clients in San Diego?

 

I would like these questions answered in this forum since this is where Dave seems to like to respond. I feel all interest have a right to know what the conflict of statements?

 

Thank You.

[+ deej]

To quote my idol, Fox Mulder, "The truth IS out there..."

 

Go get it babe.

[Guest jizzdepapi]

deej:

 

original message and BoN are providing a valuable service.

 

dave may be offering a good product but he is obviously working hard at advertising on this site.

 

jizz

[+ deej]

Didn't I say "go get it"?????

[Guest jizzdepapi]

Oops!!! PIC

 

speaking of getting it, he's an independent:

 

http://www.thebluegallery.com/nudesportscelebrities/content/images/nudesportscelebs03.jpg

[Guest sdmuscl4hire]

uh there where two replies from people that used Man To Man, also had quite a few reviews attached to their belt and I had one of them as a client myself working with Man To Man, get the facts before making statments

[Guest sdmuscl4hire]

WOW< and I state one more time, with nothing to do and idle hands one destroys each other with words and rhymes with no reason other than venting the frustration and self hatred deep down inside themselves.

 

Yes I do some work from time to time for Man To Man and mostly advertise independantly. (oops, I know I shouldnt have said the "I" word, now I will get a nice long string of attacks on how evil and corrupt I am for working independantly)

 

However when did it become a dishonest way to advertise business on the SELF PROCLAIMED best escort review site out there. To me it makes really good business sense as well as dangerous to put yourself out there for the sharks to attack hoping more good than evil will prevail out of all of it.

 

I dont know really what the mean spirited quips and attacks stem from, maybe I am just a simple person with no vendetas or political statements to make, but I just really dont get it. I feel like maybe I should really investigate as to what MANTOMAN has done so that I am not being represented by a evil crooked company. I do know Dave ran an all womens escort business for several years, and just recently opened it up to the gay community, (the bastard) hiring from what I see the best of the crop in the San Diego area, ( how could he do that must be something crooked here) ( I dont hold a candle to them, waiting for my walking papers as we speak) So maybe that is why he advertises that he has been in the business of ESCORTING for 6 years, (naw couldnt be as simple as that, he has to be evil, I just know it)

 

However when I do try to find out how these individuals who have been so wrongfully treated by Man to Man, it appears they arent even in the southern california area and never even had a business dealing or at least picked up the phone to call Dave much less even know the number. Makes one stop and wonder.

 

But hey, if it feels good do it they say, so carry on, just another "Conveniently Placed Post" from a not really impressed- as usual-with the acts and antics-of so called Mature Adults-spy.

 

Carry On

[Guest ManToManEscorts]

Good Morning Guys!

 

Damn! Just as I was about to feel humbled by the positive feedback from customers about my services, I see the messages from complete strangers who seem intent on doing the humbling for me. To those who have written positive things (including Deej), I thank you here, and will also do so by personal E-mail.

 

For the others:

 

There are NO conflicting statements regarding my history in this business. I have indeed been in this business for over 6 years. For most of these years I ran a stripper/dancer company (CAcenterfolds.com), as well as a Female Escort company (alwayswildescorts.com)-- Now THAT I grant you might be hard to believe, :-) tho it is the truth. I now have an office manager who takes care of those businesses, while I concentrate on Man To Man, which I started recently (March 2001).

 

It seems I work overtime trying to convince people that I am NOT XXXTRAORDINARY/FIRST CLASS MALE! That is a completely different operation, and I don't know them or don't care to. This is the LAST time I'm going to address THAT concern (I hope?)

 

And as for you, Jizzdepapi; I admit I had to laugh out loud when I read your post. Are you suggesting that I am under a cloud of suspicion because I advertise aggressively? Would it make you feel better if I pulled all my advertising, sacked my website, and hid in a corner waiting for the phone to ring?? The reason I have such great guys working for me (and that includes YOU SDMuscl <smooch>) is that I pay them top dollar, and I generally keep them busy and happy.

 

In closing, I guess I should be flattered in a way, that so many good things have been said about my company lately that a conspiracy is suspected. Perhaps there is a compliment to be gleaned from that -- that I must at least be doing SOMETHING right! LOL

 

Take care all!

 

Dave

Man To Man

[Guest TheOriginalMessage]

>Good Morning Guys!

>

>

>There are NO conflicting statements regarding

>my history in this business.

> I have indeed been

>in this business for over

>6 years. For most

>of these years I ran

>a stripper/dancer company (CAcenterfolds.com), as

>well as a Female Escort

>company (alwayswildescorts.com)-- Now THAT

>I grant you might be

>hard to believe, :-) tho

>it is the truth.

>I now have an office

>manager who takes care of

>those businesses, while I concentrate

>on Man To Man, which

>I started recently (March 2001).

 

First thank you for answering my questions about the conflicting statements. You might want to clarify your profile on AOL. After al not everyone reads this board and I might not be the only one who notices something like this.

>

>It seems I work overtime trying

>to convince people that I

>am NOT XXXTRAORDINARY/FIRST CLASS MALE!

> That is a completely

>different operation, and I don't

>know them or don't care

>to. This is the

>LAST time I'm going to

>address THAT concern (I hope?)

Probably not hey it is part of doing business building creditability. You have to earn it, it isn't a given.

>

>

>In closing, I guess I should

>be flattered in a way,

>that so many good things

>have been said about my

>company lately that a conspiracy

>is suspected.

 

Trust me on this while I am in San Diego (YOU READ THAT SDMUSC) I do not know the people who have made claims good orbad about your agency. AND for those who cannot read (SDMUSC) I started my post by noting I never used this agency. I made no claims about problems other than what I saw as a major conflict of statements.

[Guest pickwick]

>Now, i know i may be

>just a cynical old queen

>here, but didn't the presence

>of mantomanescorts in three subject

>lines seem a little convenient

>to you? We have

>a dispute and all of

>the sudden, here's all the

>mantomanescort fans popping out of

>the woodwrk, several with no

>prior posts. Coincidence?

>Perhaps.

>

>To quote my idol, Fox Mulder,

>"The truth IS out there..."

>

 

 

BON, I've already spoken to you about that brain of yours. If you really want to enjoy all of the posts here you'll simply have to have it removed! Now, I don't want to have to speak to you about this again, so please get it taken care of. :-)

[Guest sdmuscl4hire]

>Trust me on this while I am in San Diego (YOU READ THAT SDMUSC)<

<

 

Wasnt addressing you,

 

>I do not know the people who have made claims good orbad about your agency.<

 

Oh look I can read, oh and one more news flash " There are somethings I wrote that wherent even about you......te he"

 

 

>AND for those who cannot read (SDMUSC) I started my post by noting I never used this agency. I made no claims about problems other than what I saw as a major conflict of statements.<

 

And yet one more time I state, Idle minds and hands. Get a kite, a bike, motor scooter, maybe a doll house to put together. YOu obviously have way too much time on your hands and need to find something constructive to do other than place a post with great intention and knowing these pitt bulls wouldnt let it go till they drained the last drop of blood from their prey.

 

As I said before, if it feels good, do it. I mean come on, its only another human being we are chewing up and spitting out. Have a ball.

 

Making People Smile In San Diego

Michael

[Guest TheOriginalMessage]

>>Trust me on this while I am in San Diego (YOU READ THAT SDMUSC)<

><

>

>And yet one more time I

>state, Idle minds and hands.

>Get a kite, a bike,

>motor scooter, maybe a doll

>house to put together. YOu

>obviously have way too much

>time on your hands and

>need to find something constructive

>to do other than place

>a post with great intention

>and knowing these pitt bulls

>wouldnt let it go till

>they drained the last drop

>of blood from their prey.

 

You seem to have plenty of time on your hands. You answer every post on this board. If I were Dave from Man To Man the agency you note you work for non-exclusively I would not want someone like you representing my business on a board like this. Is this the sort of attitude your clients can expect? Do you even have any clients? The escort business must be slow for you with all of the posts you have to maintain.

>

>Making People Smile In San Diego

I know of none.

 

Goodbye

[Guest sdmuscl4hire]

LOL, I try to defend a friend and make a point and now am labeled the enemy as well, thats fine, go for the blood you desire as well. Just goes to show that the clients and the escorts really do get along here.

[Guest sdmuscl4hire]

almost forgot,

 

And another reson to get the facts, I have 4 postings in this entire site so it doesnt really take much of my time, Should I do a search for yours????? See how many are positive?????