Pussgrapple

[Guest CZ]

That's a word James Thurber made up to describe "a falling out between two effeminate men." And it applies very nicely to the hairpull still in progress between Billyboy & Mlle Lacoste. (Oh, I know--'hairpull' is an indelicate choice of words in this case.)

 

However, as many have already wearily concluded, that epic struggle is of no lasting importance to anyone--perhaps not even the participants. What does matter is the issue just raised by Unicorn and Regulation at the bottom of the Billyboy thread. And because it's so important, I think it should be fully discussed, and on a thread of its own.

 

What troubled Unicorn was the fact that both of these wildly unpleasant-sounding individuals were both given the coveted 'Hooboy Seal of Approval' (how many have there been?), and that Billyboy had once enjoyed the kind of status around here that you associate with Mother Teresa. Mind you, Hooboy's change of heart and the stated excuses for it ("I was duped" etc.) are NOT the issue: the problem is that we shouldn't have to be aware of this flip-flop in the first place.

 

If Hooboy behaved like a true moderator of his site, instead of behaving like just another giddy (yet uniquely privileged) participant, we wouldn't be. (Again, compare his 'presence' here to Ace Bannon's on his logbook.) Remember that Billyboy's main beef about H was his self-important queen-beeing and backstage manipulations (trading on & exploiting his position, subtly or otherwise), and he ought to know! He was once a main beneficiary of it.

 

It's too bad there's no way to look it up now (Hooboy has an odd habit of accidentally deleting archives), but some of you will remember how Skeptic was screamed down by Hooboy & the Hooboyettes for pointing out what a sanctimonious self-promoting fraud Billyboy was. Since Hooboy had already invested so much in Billy's rep personally (Escort of the Year status, Seal of Approval, love letters to B & rendezvous with him announced on the message board & News section, etc.)he was, of course, actually defending his own reputation. And now, two years later, hardly anything of that reputation (such as it was) remains.

 

I don't care what the Hooyboy Chorale (Unicorn's 'Greek chorus') has to say in his defense. Nor will I concede that 'specific charges' have to be raised & proven here. It's plain enough (from evidence offered by Hooboy himself) that he's far, far too involved in personal agendas & politicking behind the scenes to be a credible moderator of a site purporting to offer objective reviews of encounters that are utterly subjective in the first place.

 

That's the true issue raised by l'affaire Billyboy. And comment that doesn't deal frankly (and unemotionally) with it are just so much ketchup.

[Guest 7Zach]

The majorityof people posting here are bright, but I have to agree that certain issues were raised, and were never answered forthrightly by Hooboy. They were essentially drowned out by the noise of certain posters, which degenerated into the same ole mud slinging. But what do u expect? People are really sensitive on these boards when it suits them, and other times just flat out abusive.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Another arrow for HooBoy from your quiver...

 

Will you please cut to the chase and say what it is that you seek from HooBoy or from the rest of us... there must be some destination to your journey or is your jouney the destination?

[+ nycman]

I really don't understand what the fuss concerning Hooboy's Seal of Approval is all about. Maybe I have a clearer point to view because I've never given more than two seconds thought to Hooboy's Seal. In fact, I've learned that Hooboy and I tend to have distinctly different preferences in escort. Thus, I use the Hooboy Seal as a sign that I can pretty much skip that escort and keep looking.

 

It's exactly what he says it is...it's HOOBOY'S seal of approval. Nothing more...nothing less. Take it for whatever you wish...for me it's a red flag that that escort is not my cup of tea.

 

Please keep giving out your seal Hooboy...it saves me a great deal of time.

 

Life's funny that way sometimes.

[Guest CZ]

TamponYanker wrote:

 

<<. . .there must be some destination to your journey or

is your jouney (sic) your destination? >>

 

From Russian novelist to psychotherapist to Zen travel

consultant! My, my, you seniors sure keep busy in

retirement!

[Barry]

>TamponYanker wrote:

>

><<. . .there must be some

>>destination to your journey or

>>is your jouney (sic) your destination? >>

>

>From Russian novelist to psychotherapist to

>Zen travel

>consultant! My, my, you seniors

>sure keep busy in

>retirement!

 

Well that certainly answered Tampa's question. Is this an example of a frank and unemotional comment as you requested in your original post or would you classify it as ketchup?

[Guest regulation]

>Well that certainly answered Tampa's question.

> Is this an example

>of a frank and unemotional

>comment as you requested in

>your original post or would

>you classify it as ketchup?

>

 

Frankly, Barry, before you spend a lot of energy defending TY you should know about his long history of posting nasty and insulting comments to and about me on these boards. "Asshole" and "dog" are just two of the names he has called me in threads past. I'm not one to hold a grudge, but watching him show up on the "Changing Views" thread today to deplore, at great length, the trend toward negativity on these message boards is a bit more than I can take. In the same post he chides those who question the motives of other posters -- which is exactly what he does in this thread. As we say South of the border, Dame un break!

[ted]

I agree with nycman. Hooboy and I don't have the same tastes either, so BB was never high on my list. However some of the other reviewers and I do have the same tastes, Big Joey for instance. The good thing about this site is the "regulars" and once one gets to know their tastes, and a favorable review by them comes in, that reviewee does go to the top on my short list. I tend to take a new reviewer with a larger dose of skepticism, but note them.

We all have different perspectives, different objectives, and different psyches, hence look for different types of escorts. How boring, or tiring from his perspective, if we were all attracted to one guy. We need to make our own decisions and this site is a tool to help in making a hopefully fulfilling choice, not the bible of escorts.

[Guest Joey Ciccone]

>We need to make our own decisions and this site is a tool to help in making a hopefully fulfilling choice, not the bible of escorts<

 

Amen

[Barry]

Reg,

 

I didn't intend or see my response as a defense of TY. He can certainly do that himself. I was commenting on CZ's post which seemed to be in direct conflict with what he asked in the beginning. "any comment that doesn't deal frankly (and unemotionally) with it are just so much ketchup."

 

IMHO the question was valid. While I'm sure I've read all of your posts as well as TY's in the past, I haven't tracked the back and forth you speak of. I was concentrating on this thread at the time.

[+ Lucky]

This is Hooboy's site, made free of charge to the rest of us. If he can't get any perks for all the work he does, then he would be truly altruistic.

I may be a little jealous sometimes if he or NYO gets favored by a hot escort, but they do provide us with the information we want.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Hey Reg, buddy...

 

I know there is always something for me learn from you... I finally caught on to that after receiving instruction from you on several occasions -- and it's made me a better person.

 

 

>Frankly, Barry, before you spend a

>lot of energy defending TY

>you should know about his

>long history of posting nasty

>and insulting comments to and

>about me on these boards.

> "Asshole" and "dog" are

>just two of the names

>he has called me in

>threads past. I'm not

>one to hold a grudge,

 

We do have some history, don't we... I was perfectly happy leaving it in the past and I am content to do so.

 

As for the words "Asshole" and "dog" I honestly do not recall the episode but I don't dispute it -- I have great respect for you to recall facts when they serve your purpose. I do recall making a disparaging remark about your personality, which I regret... only because it was inappropriate of me to do so on the boards. I should have apprised you of my opinion privately.

 

I am happy to know that you don't hold grudges... being a flawed individual myself, I cannot be so upstanding always, but in your case I am happy to report that I bear you no grudge either. I recall early on in life my mother teaching me that "somtimes one has to make allowances".

 

>but watching him show up

>on the "Changing Views" thread

>today to deplore, at great

>length, the trend toward negativity

>on these message boards is

>a bit more than I

>can take. In the

>same post he chides those

>who question the motives of

>other posters -- which is

>exactly what he does in

>this thread. As we

>say South of the border,

 

I appreciate your implicit recognition that you have the high ground on this issue and I certainly defend your right to an opinion and to express it. I strive daily to be a better person than I know I am, as I'm sure you do... at the same time I will put my board demeanor up against yours for any and all without hesitation.

 

The next move is yours, then... game over, man! (See, I have learned.)

 

TY (who just isn't in the mood for a cat fight in this season of discontent :-) )

[Guest regulation]

>We do have some history, don't

>we... I was perfectly happy

>leaving it in the past

>and I am content to

>do so.

>

 

Why does that statement remind me of George W. Bush?

 

>

>I appreciate your implicit recognition that

>you have the high ground

>on this issue and I

>certainly defend your right to

>an opinion and to express

>it. I strive daily

>to be a better person

>than I know I am,

>as I'm sure you do...

>at the same time I

>will put my board demeanor

>up against yours for any

>and all without hesitation.

>

>The next move is yours, then...

>game over, man! (See,

>I have learned.)

>

 

Putting aside all of the Oprah-speak, here's the story. You and I have gotten tough with each other and with other posters in the past. But unlike you I don't show up on these boards pretending that I have the right to criticize others for doing exactly the sort of thing that I have done. You do. Whenever I feel particularly irritated by this sort of hypocrisy, I'm going to bring it up. Deal with it.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

:-) (Game Over, Man!)

[Guest MrB]

Agreed... and then we don't even know if they do, all we have is hearsay.

 

MrB