Charged for Dinner?

[Guest safesane]

If you & an escort go out to dinner,let's say,for an hour,would it be appropiate for him to ALSO charge you for this time?

[Guest Sean]

LAST EDITED ON Jul-16-00 AT 07:59AM (EST)[p]Safe we are paid for our time, whatever that time entails (dinner at Morton's or a hot scene or both). If your boss asked you to have a business lunch or dinner off the clock how would you react? If payroll deducted the time it took you to eat lunch or dinner with your boss or a client, I'm sure you would raise hell. Same rule applies to Escorting. We should get paid just as we would have if we were on a business lunch or dinner with the boss or a client.

That said, escorts are not on the clock 24 hours a day (if we were, we'd be rich as Bill Gates). And often clients ask escorts out to dinner only because they are genuinely nice people. If when making an appointment via email or the phone the client indicates an interest in dinner or drinks, I make it clear that I will be on the clock during the "getting to know you" period. Although I have made exceptions to this rule but not often!

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

LAST EDITED ON Jul-16-00 AT 09:00AM (EST)[p]Sean,

 

Where can I find one of those employers?? Mine pays not for any lunch or dinner time or overtime -- one of the benefits of working for a not-for-profit. (I am not sure that this is really very different in the profit making world, at least my part of it when I worked it.) Salaried means you get the same pay for 40 hours, 80 hours or whatever it takes. (Yes, I am a member of the working class -- if only my ancestors had held onto what they owned...)

 

Oh Sean, and I was hoping to get my feet wet (so to speak) with you over dinner, before jumping into the deep end (so to speak). Guess I'll have to add few more gold eagles to the budget...

 

Now if I could only find an employer that paid for dinner (and dessert!) with my escorts.!!

[NY Observer]

I have to disagree with Sean. I have been with a fair number of escorts and have never paid for time at dinner with them. Unless you're on an overnight, I think it is only appropriate to ask your "date" to dinner after your session and only if he wants to go (without jeopardizing his appointment, I usually tell them we can decide afterwards if they're interested). I find that because I treat the guys I see nicely, they frequently go. Good customer relations is an important part of being a good escort. I value that extra time with the man of my choice, not being charged for companion time over and above the cost of the session and the cost of dinner makes me want to see the guy again.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

LAST EDITED ON Jul-16-00 AT 09:51AM (EST)[p]Safe,

 

I think Sean makes a good point that, unless otherwise stated, you should assume they will be on the clock -- after all it is a business. I certainly would ask about it before issuing an invitation.

 

My view as to whether an escort would want to go to dinner on his own time would depend on his schedule and on how well he knows you, if at all. How many of us want to go to dinner with a perfect stranger, even for a free dinner -- no thanks? Now if you were paying me Sean's rate to go to dinner, I might consider it unless I know something about you that would kill my appetite -- a twelve course meal could be very lucrative.

 

Seriously, put yourself in their shoes, they have a life and friends and they have a job and they aren't likely to mix the two. On the other hand, if the escort has no other plans, knows something about you, possible has even made a positive assessment about you, and will be spending time with you afterward, then he might be amenable on occasion -- who knows. Just ask and see, but don't get your feelings hurt if he declines -- it is a business after all.

[Guest Sean]

I have several clients who are in Sales, I have several clients who are attorneys, they take their clients out to lunch or dinner and the firms they are employed by pay them for their time kissing the clients ass to get the account. Same in several other business's I'm aware of. As I said I have made exceptions to this rule but not often. NYO I'm sorry you disagree with me but considering the scene that you're into an Escort would be crazy to charge you for dinner as well. <grin>

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

A client of an attorney, taken to dinner by the attorney, paid for by the attorney, billable hours for the attorney -- now that client is a bottom! (whether he knows it or not)

 

No disrespect intended to Traveller, but Shakespeare had it right -- "first we kill all the lawyers...".

[Guest Merlin]

If your arrangement is to have dinner and then retire to the bedroom, the escort is entitled to be paid for his time at dinner. It is part of the service. Ordinarily the escort will expect to be paid after you are done in the bedroom. If the escort agrees to go to dinner or drinks after being paid he should not expect to be paid for the time unless he had a specific agreement for it. In short, he is entitled to be paid for everything prior to payment. After payment he is on his own time.

[Guest Sean]

Finally! The majority is in agreement with Sean!!! Wonders never cease!

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

NYO,

 

Your success with dinner invitations is not surprising to me -- you certainly give the escort an opportunity to know you and he already knows what it is like spending time with you. Also, there is no pressure of any kind because the business end is already over; only a pleasant time and free dinner to be had. Who would turn that down unless they had schedule problems. All in all a very smooth approach to the issue suitable for the Apple which never closes down. Now, what about Peoria where the roll up the sidewalks at dusk.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

A broken clock gives the right time twice a day! (Just trying to keep your feet on the ground here.)

 

Sean, I'm worried that your beginning to think of yourself in the third person.

[Guest Sean]

LAST EDITED ON Jul-16-00 AT 09:50AM (EST)[p]Tampa I sometimes think of myself as the 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th. Sometimes all the way up to 23!

 

Sybil

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Ah! A true multi-faceted escort.

[Guest davos3]

When you hire an escort, he has rates per hour, overnight, weekend, etc.

 

It is absurdly unrealistic to EXPECT that any person would charge for some "hours: and not others.

 

An escort cannot be expected to fill all voids in any client's life.

 

If, after you have finished your planned and paid-for projects together, and the business is settled, you elect to engage in post coital calories (as new friends), each participant can dine happily together by choice and quite "freely."

 

Otherwise, business is business. Bon Appetit.

[Guest Jake]

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I'm ready to take up a collection to send Sean to Peoria. It would be worth it to find out if this flirting between Tampa and Sean (sort of cute and romantic)rates on the heat-o-meter. I'm starting to think they'll make a cute couple.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

davos,

 

Let me see if I get this right. You and Merlin tie the appropriateness of the off-the clock dinner to completion of the payment transaction (usually at the end of the scheduled engagement) -- before is a no-no and after is a go-go?? If this is correct then would your consideration differ if the client prepaid for the appointment and then asked the question about dinner? (Just a theoretical question.)

 

I agree that payment in full at the end of the appointment does clear up much of the ambiguity about dinner on the clock, but this ambiguity can also be addressed by straightforwardly asking the question.

 

Appreciate your clearing up this question for me.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

LAST EDITED ON Jul-16-00 AT 10:12AM (EST)[p]Duplicate post.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Jake,

 

Thanks for your warm thoughts -- Sean might like Peoria, but as for me I have no intention of going there anytime soon.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

LAST EDITED ON Jul-16-00 AT 10:13AM (EST)[p]Duplicate post.

[Guest Sean]

LAST EDITED ON Jul-16-00 AT 11:16AM (EST)[p]Ditto Tampa, Have NO INTENTIONS of going there. Couldn't imagine a restaurant there worth going to Altough if Jake wants to start that collection for us to meet.......I'm game!

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Count me in with both feet. Are you listening Jake?

[NY Observer]

I think I'd enjoy dinner in Peoria, especially if it was with Billyboy It's the company that makes the good time, not the location.

[Guest rookie]

escorts and dinner

 

Well...If it is my forst time with a guy I can see paying for his time.

I have a couple of regular "friends" that have offered to catch a bite afterwards...and even go out after that. I think only because they are more comfortable with me and we have met a number of times...I have to admit that it is great to be with them on a regular basis outside of a hotel room...they are great guys...But it took awhile for this to happen...well worth the wait though !!!

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

LAST EDITED ON Jul-16-00 AT 10:38PM (EST)[p]Can't disagree with you about the company being the important point, but if your eating in Peoria, you'll be eating early or carry out.

 

And by the way, I have nothing against Peoria -- just that smaller places don't have much going on later in the evening.

[Guest davos3]

RE: Charged for Dinner and to vacuum the room?

 

DEAR Double posting Yankee:

 

You may just have too much free time on your hands.

You may just have too much free time on your hands.

 

Davos3