Raising expectations with prices

[Guest Cynic]

Escort Prices are rising! quality of service is declining! Who is to blame? WE ARE! The clients.

 

Reading these glowing reviews you would think most of these escorts are genuinely concerned about their clients’ pleasure. Bullshit! I’ve hired so many of these guys with glowing reviews. At best, they live up to average.

 

Most escorts today go into the business with the attitude that they should get paid just because they are pretty. God forbid they should have to DO anything.

 

Then we go out and hire them. They come to the door, and all we can do is lose ourselves and drool! Most of US have such low self-esteems, that we’ll take whatever mediocre treatment they dish out. Let us face it, we are paying them good money. They should be treating us like WE were the Adonis. Isn’t that what we pay them for? To make US feel good?

 

They should (for that amount of money) at least feign like they would pay US to sleep with them. But they give us the old “American Work Ethic”: Get away with as little work as you can and get paid.

 

Most often, when I see a review with “Outstanding” or whatever, I will chalk it up to some low self-esteem that got to do the minimum with a pretty boy. I ignore it.

 

People, let’s get realistic with our reviews. I realize that there are escorts out there that do deserve the outstanding marks. But now a days, that’s all you see in the reviews. It’s pure bullshit. There just aren’t that many escorts out there that are worth what they are asking for. There are a few, but not nearly as many as this site would suggest.

 

I’m not blaming Hooboy. He only puts ‘em up as they come. It’s us, the clients. I’ve been just as guilty in the past. I woke up. Hopefully more of you will too.

 

Simply, Prices are rising, and it’s time to stop putting up with mediocrity!! When something is So-so, or average, or just enough to get by, say so. Only when it’s really beyond our expectations, should we give the high praise. WE NEED TO RAISE OUR EXPECTATIONS ALONG WITH THE PRICES!!

 

I took this name as a tribute to Skeptic, I’m interested to hear his opinion.

[Guest fedssocr]

Sorry you've had such poor experiences. I think it does come down to expectations. Some people are never satisfied with anything and other people are easily satisfied. Does that necessarily have to do with low self-esteem? I don't think so, some of us are just easier to please. I think a client who is basically easy-going, treats the escort like a real person and not just a piece of meat, and who has an idea of what to expect is likely to describe his experience as outstanding. Some escorts may be outstanding for one person and poor for another based on personal chemistry and a host of other factors. Yes, you are paying them, but the client's attitude, I believe, has a whole lot to do with the kind of experience he has. Let's remember that escorts are people too and while they are providing pretty personal services, the whole transaction is a two-way street...at least in order for me to describe it as a good one that is the case.

 

Also, people are more likely to post a positive review I think when they are pleased, than they are to post a negative review when they are not pleased.

 

If an escort is charging more than you want to pay, then don't hire him. Should be as simple as that. If you hire some one who had an outstanding review and you disagree after your session then by all means show us your own review. If the escort truly is bad, his negative reviews will add up over time.

 

Here in DC prices don't seem to be rising all that fast. I remember the "good old days" when you could have an hour of a cute boy's time for $100 or less. Now the going rate is $150, which for me is still affordable. My expectations have not changed with the rising prices, but then again I am a pretty vanilla guy who is easy to please for the most part. Have I always had a good time, no, certainly not, but on the whole the positive experiences outweigh the bad ones as is the case with much of the rest of life.

[Guest Cynic]

I'm not talking about a difference between total loss and outstanding. I'm talking about average vs. outstanding.

 

Here's the deal. I have to go through paying several average escorts to find a good one, because the rest of you guys aren't picky enough and are willing to settle for average and call it outstanding. McDonalds is not Prime Grade Beef!!

 

Most clients set a low standard that most escorts go by. If we all raise our standards, they'll have to follow or leave the game. We'd all win. So what's wrong with that?

 

I'm not talking about "poor experiences" I'm talking about average. I'm not the kind of ass who doesn't pay his escorts. I think this has been covered, and we know it's not easy to do that without having our speakers kicked in.

 

We cannot take the full upper hand, but as the consumer, we should have more of it than we do. You going to start letting every salesman sell you every day merchandise at Tiffany prices?

 

Let's just not settle for "what you can get away with" any more.

[Rod Hagen]

Cynic, interesting. What is it, specifically, about the reviews that you find misleading or at least innacurate? -Hagen

[Guest Matt In Vancouver]

I agree that everytime I scan the new reviews, they are either 'Outstanding, or Total Loss', is there no middle ground? We all can't be outstanding.(well I am, but that's another thread: ) If the service is mediocre, by all means say it was mediocre, don't pull any punches, we can take it... well some of us won't kick out your speakers anyhow. (sorry Sean, a little dig: ) No harm....please?: )

With regards to the rate increases, I agree that some guys are charging way too much, but hey if you can afford to pay it, by all means, and obviously some are willing to pay these rates. Market will bear it.

I personally can't justify charging some outerageous fee for a night of fun, yeah I want to put my daughter through college, but a thousand a night? YIKES!!

I guess I will never become a world class escort, because you are percieved somewhat by the rate you charge, and some think this equals level of service. You can find a guy in almost any price range that will provide exceptional sevice, and you can find total losses in any price range. Use your judgement, read between the lines, shop around, and for christs sakes have some hot sweaty sticky sex! That's what it's all about isn't it??

my northern lad perspective.

Matt

[Guest paulnyc]

One of the reasons, I believe, why there are not more realistic or negative reviews is due to the fact that the escort always has the last word on this site. Almost everytime there is a negative or less than stellar review, the escort responds with a scathing attack on the client. It's as if an escort is never wrong and the client is always guilty of some horrible action or of looking like a "troll." Who wants to take the time to write an honest review to subsequently be abused, even anonymously.

[Guest Sean]

Good God people, ya'll are enough to drive a white woman to drink! (and I don't need another excuse). All you guys seem to do is Bitch, moan, groan and gripe. 90% of the threads on this board are Bitch Bitch Bitch! I guess this is a good place to vent ones frustrations but the simple matter of the fact is if ya hire an Escort and ya don't have a good time with him DON'T HIRE THE SON OF A BITCH AGAIN! Find a couple good ones that ya have a good time with and stick with em :)My Valium is kicking in and I must get myself to the couch, the fire is going and I have a hot boy on the way over, My baby is in Europe and I just hate sleeping alone Sweet dreams guys!

[Guest torjon]

Wordy old reviewer that I am, I'll keep this one short(er), if that's possible. (I'm like a newly "born again christian" in this world of escort-client..and we all know that new born c's should be locked away for a year while their zeal seeks a balance). I have reviewed only 4 of the escorts I've seen. I reviewed them because they were..for me..OUT-FUCKING-STANDING, while I was with them, and I wanted to tell the world..(born again zeal in action!).It didn't take me long to know that an escort that didn't meet my needs or wasn't fun to be with just didn't get a return visit...it didn't mean he deserved a bad review...just wasn't for me. Simple, methinks. I have a lot of trouble with damaging a man's reputation and career because of a lack of chemistry or whatever, so I don't write negative reviews and all the critcism in the world won't make do so. Im happy howver, to spread the word on the good

guys, and I do.(Even my very favorite guys have disappointed me at least once, but because they are special, they get a second chance!). As for prices I know what I can comfortably pay. I have my own limit, and if an escort exceeds that then I won't hire him. Simple again! So, Cynic, I have to say my experiences have been mostly good and often great. But I like the guys I see more than once and they know I do,and I think they like me, and because we start there, it's a pretty satisfying hour or several. There's a line from a song in some old Broadway flop that goes..."I Fell In with Evil Companions and I had a WONDERFUL TIME". That's me, Cynic. I'm having a fucking ball and will save the cynicism for when it's over. (Did I say short? Sorry!)

[Guest craigrc]

I disagree strongly with the posters whose policy is to post a positive review if they've had a good experience but refrain from posting a negative or mediocre review when the experience has been less than good. They misunderstand and are interfering with the purpose of this site.

 

Every escort advertises himself as being all that a client could want. No escort is going to post an ad stating that he watches the clock, takes telephone calls in the middle of an appointment, doesn't really look like his picture, frequently shows up late, or often refuses to do some of the things that he advertises he'll do. This site is the only source clients have for information on the shortcomings of escorts. Those who know about such shortcomings but refuse to share them have no business here. Please take your rose-colored glasses and go start your own site. You can call it "Pollyana hires an escort."

[Guest torjon]

Like I said, all the criticism in the world (and I knew Id be attacked for my stand) won't change the way I choose to use this site. I tell you about the good guys.Do with it what you like.I hired 3 of them because of their good reviews here...all lived up to and surpassed those reviews. There's something wrong with that? Id suggest it's the site working for me the way it should. Craigrc's suggestion that I should take my rose-colored glasses(they're clear,by the way) and go away because I don't trash sounds mean spirited and arrogant, but life (mine anyway) is too short and I prefer to dwell on the best that's on offer. Sorry, Craigrc..I'm not going anywhere and not changing anything. Escorts are not my whole life so I'll just go with the guys that get the good reviews, and when I "discover" a new talent I'll tell the site about him. It works for me. (And it's amazing how my skin is thickening...a few months ago it would have devestated me to be "attacked" here...would have just disappeared. Now I see it as a "lively exchange" and an entertaining thread..proof one is never too old to change and learn.). Now excuse me while I go tint my glasses...

[Guest Merlin]

>Escort Prices are rising! quality of

>service is declining! Who

>is to blame? WE

>ARE! The clients.

>

>Reading these glowing reviews you would

>think most of these escorts

>are genuinely concerned about their

>clients’ pleasure. Bullshit!

> I’ve hired so many

>of these guys with glowing

>reviews. At best, they

>live up to average.

>

>Most escorts today go into the

>business with the attitude that

>they should get paid just

>because they are pretty.

>God forbid they should have

>to DO anything.

>

>Then we go out and hire

>them. They come to

>the door, and all we

>can do is lose ourselves

>and drool! Most of

>US have such low self-esteems,

>that we’ll take whatever mediocre

>treatment they dish out.

>Let us face it, we

>are paying them good money.

> They should be treating

>us like WE were the

>Adonis. Isn’t that what

>we pay them for?

>To make US feel good?

>

>

>They should (for that amount of

>money) at least feign like

>they would pay US to

>sleep with them. But

>they give us the old

>“American Work Ethic”: Get

>away with as little work

>as you can and get

>paid.

>

>Most often, when I see a

>review with “Outstanding” or whatever,

>I will chalk it up

>to some low self-esteem that

>got to do the minimum

>with a pretty boy.

>I ignore it.

>

>People, let’s get realistic with our

>reviews. I realize that

>there are escorts out there

>that do deserve the outstanding

>marks. But now a

>days, that’s all you see

>in the reviews. It’s

>pure bullshit. There just

>aren’t that many escorts out

>there that are worth what

>they are asking for.

>There are a few, but

>not nearly as many as

>this site would suggest.

>

>I’m not blaming Hooboy. He

>only puts ‘em up as

>they come. It’s us,

>the clients. I’ve been

>just as guilty in the

>past. I woke up.

> Hopefully more of you

>will too.

>

>Simply, Prices are rising, and it’s

>time to stop putting up

>with mediocrity!! When something

>is So-so, or average, or

>just enough to get by,

>say so. Only when

>it’s really beyond our expectations,

>should we give the high

>praise. WE NEED TO

>RAISE OUR EXPECTATIONS ALONG WITH

>THE PRICES!!

>

>I took this name as a

>tribute to Skeptic, I’m interested

>to hear his opinion.

[Guest Merlin]

The question is more complicated than it seem. Escorts react differently with some clients than others and clients are looking for and satisfied with different performances. I for one am primarily looking for someone with a great body and a pleasant personality. If he has those I will find some way to have fun and come away thinking I had a good time. An outstanding body will probably rate and outstanding with me. I realize from reading the reviews that others will prefer an eager performance even with a mediocre body. No one is right or wrong in what he prefers, and there is no way to reduce it to a simple scale of outstanding down to loss. In part for that reason I have not posted any reviews, but I do appreciate this site and think it performs a valuable service.

[Guest Merlin]

LAST EDITED ON Jun-12-00 AT 10:59AM (EST)[p]The question is more complicated than it seem. Escorts react differently with some clients than others and clients are looking for and satisfied with different performances. I for one am primarily looking for someone with a great body and a pleasant personality. If he has those I will find some way to have fun and come away thinking I had a good time. An outstanding body will probably rate and outstanding with me. I realize from reading the reviews that others will prefer an eager performance even with a mediocre body. No one is right or wrong in what he prefers, and there is no way to reduce it to a simple scale of outstanding down to loss. In part for that reason I have not posted any reviews, but I do appreciate this site and think it performs a valuable service.

[Guest Cynic]

I totally agree with you Paul. After all it was our dear Sean worldclassego that whined to hooboy and had his bad review yanked only to be followed by 12 glowing reviews. I seem to also remember hooboy stating some time back that he won't post some negative reviews because he has an inside scoop and doesn't want to ruin some guys lives. Maybe some of us with money should start our own site which will be honest and truthful without bias. My sincere thanks to Matt for being honest and going against the grain. You will definately be on my list to try. I think you sound like an honest person.

[Guest Ken]

I totally agree with Cynic re: poor quality of escorts and outlandish prices. I've voiced my opinion in the past and have been lambasted by those who disagreed with me. If one treats the escort with respect, the escort should give him his money's worth. Unfortunately, like someone said, many (not all, there are exceptions) feel like they are god's gift and can't wait to grab the $200 (whatever) and get out as quickly as possible. I am heartened to see that Matt of Vancouver realizes that this happens. He appears to be a very good escort who is genuinly trying to satisfy his clients. If all escorts were like him, there would be less bitching. However, he is the exception. If only more REALISTIC reviews were written this problem would quickly disappear. Most of us work hard for our money and spending $200 for one hour of fun (I don't dare say love) is something that is not easy to do. If an escort advertises as "the total package", then he has to deliver it...(attitude and personality are as important as his 9"). If he doesn't deliver 100% then it should be noted. Again, respect, on both sides, is mandatory.

[Guest Sean]

RE: Response to Cynic

 

Cynic dear, Hooboy pulled that review because it was a LIE and another escort wrote it. I called several of my clients to defend me and they did. Case closed! Fortunately the majority of my clients have no idea this board exist. Quite frankly they have better things to do with their time than sit around gossiping about Escorts. And you call me Arrogant? That's a hoot! If you are anyone here thinks I give a SHIT what you think about me you are SADLY MISTAKEN! I could care less. My reviews speak for themselves. I show my clients a good time and that's all that matters to me. Peace!

[Guest MrB]

Let me agree with everyone a little bit here.

 

I've had mostly outstanding experiences with escorts myself, thanks largely to what I've learned from this site.

 

When I was first posting reviews, I rated one guy 'very good' and got trashed for it on word choice. Point taken, but I still won't rate that experience 'outstanding'if that's not how I lived it. I bought a very good service but it was NOT everything we agreed. Escorts are selling a service to us for good money, they make a promise and they have to deliver.

 

Of course escorts are also human beings--if you don't treat them with respect, you'll never have a good time with any of them.

 

But I agree with Cynic's comments that it's no good to post 'total losses' and 'outstandings' only. Try and use the whole scale of ratings. A very good escort's livelihood won't be ruined because of one 'average' review if he has several more that are 'very good' and 'outstanding'.

 

Car manufacturers, lawyers and plumbers are human beings. Like escorts, they all charge top rates. If you're not totally happy with their product or service, I think it's OK to say so. If not, what's the point of this site anyway?

 

As you write a review that's not 100% positive, try and make it clear exactly why you were not entirely happy. It may read very differently to someone with different expectations. It's not necessarily the end of the escort's career, but rather a reality check for the next client.

[Guest red]

RE: New rating terminology?

 

Maybe we need a review category between "very good" and "outstanding"? I know this reeks of grade inflation, but there are some experiences which are exactly what we bargained for (the right guy, he tries hard, the sex was fine) and others which are truly toe-curling wonderful. How about it, hooboy, can we have a review category between "very good" (which seems like faint praise) and "outstanding"? Maybe it can be called "excellent" or "great."

[Guest Sean]

RE: New rating terminology?

 

LAST EDITED ON Jun-12-00 AT 03:42PM (EST)[p]Red Daddy! Where ya been? I've missed you. Shout at me in an e-mail. Would love to hear from you :)I'm still in LA LA land going through renovation HELL! But its coming together quite nicely.

[Guest regulation]

RE: New rating terminology?

 

torjon, when you take the position that your way is the best way and you're not going to listen to anyone else's point of view no matter what, you have quite a nerve calling anyone else arrogant. Your position is the epitome of arrogance. Like many visitors here, I've avoided several bad experiences by avoiding escorts who were reviewed negatively on this site. I'm thankful that many visitors don't have the same attitude as you when it comes to posting negative reviews. If they did, this site would be much less useful. Craig is absolutely right. We can rely on escorts to tell us how wonderful they are. We need a site like this to tell us which ones are not so wonderful.

 

I don't enjoy posting negative reviews myself and have done so only once. I did it after realizing that if someone else had posted a negative review of the escort I wouldn't have wasted my time and money on him. Too bad you aren't concerned enough about your fellow visitors to this site to do the same.

[Guest torjon]

RE: New rating terminology?

 

Where did I say my way was the best way? I said it was what works for me. As for relying on the escorts to tell us how wonderful they are....c'mon..they have a service to sell, and of course they're going to say they are wonderful. When I've seen one who is, I confirm it.( My experiences have mostly been good.) As for suggesting I don't care about my "fellow visitors",that's just not so. I want them to have a great time, so I recommend the guys I happen to know they can do that with. Regardless whether the info says OUTSTANDING or VERY GOOD, it's the review that should make that point abundantly clear and I suggest they usually do. Boy, it sure isn't easy to have a different opinion here than that expressed in the initial post.

[Guest Jake]

RE: New rating terminology?

 

>Boy, it sure isn't easy

>to have a different opinion

>here than that expressed in

>the initial post.

 

No it sure isn't. As one who has done it on a number of occasions only to be called petty and angry and wrong, I can assure you that it is not for the weak of spirit to post contrary to the masses. I thank cynic for his post. It is similar to one that I posted many months ago in which I chastized myself for being too easy with my reviews. Since then I have hired less escorts and have tried to be more honest in my reviews. On the occasions I have posted a somewhat negative review of an escort (I have never had a total loss experience) I have been bombarded by the escort himself (remember, they often have your home address as well as your phone number and email address) castigating me for not telling him directly. I've also had satisfied clients post that I must be crazy to have a negative response to their favorite escorts, or that I must be having a bad day, or that I don't know what good sex is. So,yes, it does take a strong individual to post truthfully. I'm using escorts less often these days and I'm happy about it. But when I do, I feel an obligation to review him and review him honestly.

[Guest YR]

RE: New rating terminology?

 

>Boy, it sure isn't easy

>to have a different opinion

>here than that expressed in

>the initial post.

 

Actually, I don't think that people are giving you a hard time for having a "different opinion," but rather the opinion that it's only fair to tell if YOU had a good time - c'mon guy, as Hooboy would say, "Just be honest in your judgement and truthful in your reporting," and that way NOBODY winds up hiring a loser you didn't want to expose.

[Guest stef4vegas]

I totally agree with " fedssocr " .

If you're having such bad experience with people having such great reviews, why don't you do your own reviews and show it to all of us .It is really easy to understand.

Also if you think that the rate is too expensive, why do you hire them? You are already pissed off by the rate! You want to meet the guy but you're already pissed by the price. Well I guess the best thing to do here is just hire somebody else, if you can work something out. Also nobody is perfect, just in case you didn't know.

 

 

Stephan Lacoste

1-888-650-2859

http://www.lasvegasfun4you.com

[Guest Cynic]

LAST EDITED ON Jun-13-00 AT 00:59AM (EST)[p]Stephan It is not so simple. I have submitted reviews. One on you in fact. It's in the backlog I guess.

 

I'm not pissed by the price. I'm pissed that most often, the price doesn't match the service. I'm happy to pay $1000 an hour if that's the service level I get.

 

I'm glad some of those good ones, Like Matt seem to agree, at least somewhat. Now there's a guy with no attitude.