Beware of Hustler Brothers from Canada back in New York

[Guest paulnyc]

Perhaps I was the only one who wasn't aware of the poor reputations of the Toronto escort brothers, Kirk/Voltaire and Darren. I should have read the reviews on this site more carefully and would have saved myself a lot of money and aggravation. Well, these two hustlers are back in New York and are working out of Stella's among other places and scaming lots of money for promises that don't intend to keep. Once they get their money up front, their interest in you is over and you are treated with disrespect and scorn. They may even be dancing at the Gaiety within the next couple of weeks, so all of you beware. Don't be taken in by their good looks, unless you enjoy being mocked and/or have lots of money to throw away for nothing in return.

[bill]

They are still around NY in May with Colt at the Comfort Inn midtown.

[ready4boi]

I can't say much about Kirk's brother. Indeed the two of them have earned very bad reputations. As for Kirk, he knows the word is out about him. He also realizes he can't find new suckers as easily as he used to. I have found that you just can't predict what slick hustlers like Kirk are going to do. Kirk has ripped off far more guys than he has pleased, but he's learning the hard way. He knows he won't last much longer in the business unless he starts truly satisfying or at least making some effort to please the customer. His con games are really getting old fast.

[BgMstr4u]

I was in NYC last week and went to the Gaiety and then to Stella's on Thurs. night, 4/27. At Stella's I was looking for something approximating a white muscle or at least boy next door type, and just as I was leaving who should turn up but Kurt. He introduced himself and gave the fastest pitch I think I've ever heard. I left alone, largely because of the caution the reviews here have urged.

[HooBoy]

I wish the gent who was with Darren last week would let me post what happened, but he's embarrassed that he was hood-winked.

 

One thing that he overheard was Darren and Kirk talking and laughing about how much money they were making off of the old fags in America.

 

On the positive side, I have a review of Kirk in the queue that is VERY positive and I don't think it was written by his Mom. It was just some guy that was able to hustle the hustler...and he did it with kindness.

 

HooBoy

Email: HooBoy@male4malescorts.com

[Guest Skeptic]

Yes, and there was another very positive account of a session with Kirk (it may even have been a weekender) given in a recent posting to one of these boards. The commentator in that case was well aware that his enthusiasm ran absolutely counter to the longstanding 'accepted' buzz on this guy, and seemed to be stressing the point that even an escort with a terrible rep could prove delightful with a client whose expectations were realistic and clearly stated upfront, and who then proceeded to treat him kindly--though with the firmness of one who is not to be played for a fool.

 

I think I may sashay down to Stella's tonight & seek this fellow out. Anonymously, of course. (Or maybe I'll throw out strong hints that I'm actually Hooboy.) And, as long as I have a good time, he can snicker all he wants later on about ripping off another old American fag--if that makes him feel any better about who he is and what he does for a living, poor baby.

[+ bigjoey]

i was the poster with the positive experiences with kirk. he can be handled and he does put out with little if any limits. he is not for the unexperienced john; he told me in february he was going to be leaving the field this summer and go to school. he had saved up enough to pay for the classes he needed.

 

there are better escorts around as far as service goes but bodies and dicks like his are few and far between. he can really be sweet if he wants to be.

[Traveller]

I was the one that gave the glowing review of Kirk, and as Skeptic will confirm, I've seen a few escorts in my time. Hey, he was great. Good looking, great bod, good kisser, excellent top, and came a big load. But Justin, sweet meat...stud muffin...love animal, not nearly as good as you, tiger.

 

BTW, I'm posting a review of Zach Mateo, who was working the Gaiety last week and left today for LA. Three words, cocky as shit. Two words, sex machine. One word, phenomenal. But Justin, still not nearly as great as you, big boy. How's that for being penitent?

[Guest ManhattanMan]

Thanks for the alert on those Canadians, guys. Good to know these things! I agree on Zack, by the way. cocky (depending on his mood) & VERY sexy. Something about those latins.......sigh.

[bill]

These two boys are still in town. Darren was once an attentive prostitute, but he, Kirk and Colt are now into being totally manipulative of their clients.

 

They will try to get your money first, then get you to leave the room (for condoms or something else). They won't let you back in the room, but you and all the other escorts on the floor can hear them laugh at you for giving them the money.

 

My friend is embarrassed, but this happened to you. Don't be deceived if they say they want you to top them -- it is a trick.

[+ SundayZip]

Oooops. This is interesting. I just posted a positive review of Kirk under the "stellas" thread before reading this thread. I stated that I was considering another get-together with Kirk, but now, after reading this thread, he sounds like a total asshole. Guess I should reconsider.

[Guest dallas]

Are you guys sure that these brothers really from Toronto, Canada? It baffles me because I've been visiting Remingtons for several years and haven't seen them there. Even if I meet them I won't hire them base on the above postings. I work so hard for my money and the last thing I want is pay for nothing.

 

thanks

[shy]

LAST EDITED ON May-19-00 AT 10:27AM (EST)[p]>Are you guys sure that these

>brothers really from Toronto, Canada?

> It baffles me because

>I've been visiting Remingtons for

>several years and haven't seen

>them there. Even if I

>meet them I won't hire

>them base on the above

>postings. I work so hard

>for my money and the

>last thing I want is

>pay for nothing.

>

>thanks

>

>

i have been to toronto and remingtons quite a bit in the last several years. i can verify that darren has been there quite a bit when i was at least the last year if not two; only remember seeing kirk there a couple times. that said, i cant actually they are "from" toronto.

[Michael]

Yes, they are definitely both from Toronto.

 

Kirk hasn't worked regularly down at Remingtons for 3 or 4 years at least - I think I saw him down there once (or, perhaps, twice) last year, that's all. He certainly spends a lot of time in NY - not sure where he is living right now.

 

His brother Darren is definitely still in Toronto and works at Remingtons pretty much every weekend except when he's down in NY ripping people off :-(

[Guest sexpert]

I don't want to drag this too long, but I have to disagree with the above poster (Michael). Darren is the one who hasn't shown up in Remington's in a while. on the other hand, I've seen Kirk there this past Friday! Admittedly, they both come to Remington's far less frequently than they used to. I guess ripping off customers in the US is more rewarding...

[Michael]

Oops ... sorry, I probably didn't make it clear that when I was referring to Darren having been around more than Kirk "recently" I meant averaged over the last year or so ... not specifically what might be happening there last week ;-)