Weird Gaiety Experience

[Guest Josh Daniels]

I hadn't sat down and watched one of the shows at The Gaiety in awhile. My friend from back home wanted to go so I ended up sitting through it. I have little patience for sitting almost three hours, but he made me promise to take him. Forget about the unoffical web page I started cause I wanted to get a rise (get it) out of you guys in more ways than one. To make a long story short, one particular prostitute/dancer there decided to verbally bash me for his own entertainment. If you want to know who, you'll have to e-mail me because I want to be careful about who I share this information with. I found it ironic how this same dancer tried unsuccessfully to get me to go with him the first time he saw me there months ago. After calling me over to sit and talk with him for some time, he offered me a discount. I said no. Finally he tried to get me to go with him for free, but I still said no. I know a lot of you probably think I'm crazy for not taking him up on it, but I knew he was trouble. I will say I'm probably several years older than this insecure and immature kid, but I find this type of behavior odd and disturbing coming from any escort. Maybe some of you had similar experiences that ended up working out for you. For me it was one more reason I became uncomfortable going there. I didn't think it was funny at all. I generally keep to myself and avoid dealing with people like that. I'm nice and don't judge them, but if they mouth off and judge me, that's another story. This one decided to go there Friday calling me a fairy and everything else. I don't think he is cut out to last there especially treating gay customers like that. It was weird. He crossed the line and got personal. That never happens to me cause I don't go with prostitutes in the first place. I just liked to watch the guys dance. God only knows where that lady who runs the place finds them.

[Guest Newbie]

Weird indeed

 

Yeah, there's something weird about all this, and I think it's YOU, Josh.

 

I thought it was weird when you popped up on this forum last month to promote an 'unofficial' webpage for the Gaiety. It turned out to be nothing of the kind. Instead, we were treated to bits and pieces of incorrect or out-of-date information about the place, followed by a long, windy essay about your own negative view of it, and then some moralizing about the evils of prostitution.

 

When asked why anyone here (of all places) would be interested in any of the above, you made some loopy reply which I honestly can't recall now. But I do recall that it didn't answer the question. It didn't even begin to...

 

You then made another weird posting, the one with the quote from Musto, telling us everything except what we might actually want to know about it, while admitting that the true purpose of the post was to promote your site. Just in case anyone doubted that (though surely no one did), you then made a point of NOT being helpful about the missing info, suggesting we 'look it up' ourselves.

 

Now you come with this weird (and ultimately pointless) tale of of some outrage done you at the place you love to hate. I don't know which dancer it was you say mistreated you, but I know that I've never met anyone appearing there (not even the pathetic Billy Brandt)who was as 'insecure and immature' as you've shown yourself to be in all this. And I sure I'm not the only Gaiety regular to snicker at the bit about the guy offering to go with you for nothing. You may be as cute as all get out, but something about that little plot-twist rings false--to me at least. And if by chance the guy actually said such a thing, I'm willing to bet he was, well, just joshing you, Josh.

 

His calling you a 'fairy' doesn't make much sense either, since that would imply he was a homophobic str8, while you'd have us believe that he was all-too-eager to sweep you off to bed. And surely a thoroughly modern queer of your generation would laugh off so feeble and 20th-century an insult.

 

But finally, what IS your problem? What was the point of spinning out this tale? Did you expect sympathetic comment on it? Were you expecting raging controversy to ensue? Would you like NYObserver to complain to Denise on your behalf? What's the story, Josh?

 

I guess it isn't some half-assed way of continuing to promote your 'site'. After all, you've just told us to forget about it. Good advice, Josh, but rather late and hardly necessary. I'd already forgotten about it myself--until you reappeared tonight.

 

But just to keep things positive, I'm going to make a few suggestions. First, stay away from the Gaiety (and let out-of-town visitors fend for themselves). Second, if you really like hanging out here (and why not?), refrain from making what our friend the Skeptic would call 'bogus' postings. And finally, consider dismantling the Gaiety part of your site. The deep and painful ambivalence you seem to have about it will make you old before your time.

[Guest Josh Daniels]

RE: Weird indeed

 

Newbie,

 

Yea I guess I am weird for only watching guys strip nude but not paying to have sex with them and then having a problem with being harassed by one. I pay to see dick and then have to deal with one of the hustler's homophobia. Oh gee guess that makes me a freak! As for the web page, I meant to forget about it in reference to why I posted this message. I was wondering if anyone else happened to go there to see stripping and ended up being harrassed like I was. Oh and sorry I can't be the proverbial source of information you want me to be. We can't all know the secrets of the universe. The fact is I could only give you my account of what's happened to me. I know lots of people from The Gaiety and "activities" that have gone on there. One of my closest friends used to dance there, and I was simply adding another perspective to all the hoopla. I like New York Observer and think he's a nice guy, but he wasn't necessarily pointing out the negative aspects about the theatre. Then again he was only talking about his individual experience. Why I am weird for telling mine? I'm not expecting anyone to come to my rescue and defend me. Still customers should be warned about the nonsense and the games going on. Isn't one of the purposes of this site to inform aware of the liars and players out there?

[+ bigjoey]

RE: Weird indeed

 

please, do not post your "fairy" tales here and whatever your issues, please seek professional help. your posting does not ring true. if you just wanted to "see dick" you can easily do so by staying in the part by the stage and not going into the lounge area; dancers are not allowed into that part of the gaiety and you would never have to talk to any of them. the shy or people like you CAN just enjoy the show.

 

i know of two dancers who gave freebies; both were gay and hot for the other party and wanted to see them again. i can not imagine a guy that hates gays wanting to have free sex with them. from your postings, it appears your beef is really with hiring for sex. why not complain about the listings in hx or next or frontier or advocate's classified, etc. i've had bad experiences there. at least at the gaiety you can not only see before you buy but have a conversation face-to-face to judge them; no surprises at the door. if you don't like the profession of escorting be honest; i say let consenting adults do what they want; if you don't want stay away or at least out of the lounge at the gaiety.

 

finally, i've said it before, treat the escort right and they will treat you right; it's not rocket science. in reading the reviews of the escorts, i am treated differently than many of the posters. there are many postings that say this escort or that one doesn't kiss which i like very much and that escort kisses for me; i can only believe that the escort is just returning the way i treat him.

 

as for the bad escorts, yes there are some at the gaiety as there are in the printed ads; that is why this site is so good it identifies the bad ones. read the reviews and you know who to go with and who to avoid; who has "attitude" an who does not. even the famous "kirk the jerk" as posted on your site can be decent; i've had him to my house for weekends(love that beautiful body and dick)and he is insecure and lonely like many of his customers; treated right, he is a good kisser and that ass can be yours. yes, most of the time he can be a jerk but treated humanly, he responds(however, i would not recommend him because there are many better guys; you need to know how to handle him). from your posting of kirk, it could be your experience with him was so bad you have taken your hate out on the entire gaiety(audience and dancers alike).

 

there are those of us that enjoy the gaiety, the shows and the "private shows"; we may not be your cup of tea; just go away and leave us to what we like to do. no one is forced to go there and sit for three hours to watch beautiful guys dance naked(unless we have friends who want to go???).no one is forced to talk to the guys. no one is forced to go on "privates". get a life and leave us alone.

[Guest Newbie]

Weirder and weirder

 

Josh, I hope others reading your posts can understand where you're coming from (or headed for) better than I do. But I'll try to answer your questions--if that's in fact what they are.

 

1) You're certainly not exceptional (and hardly a freak) for going to the Gaiety just to watch the guys perform. Most of the people there are doing that--just that--with no wish or intention to hire any of them for private shows. They pay to get in, see the show, and then leave. A much smaller part of the public are patrons who hang out in the greenroom before, during & after the show. They're either window-shopping the talent (wishing they could hire, but not doing it for any number of reasons) or they're negotiating with a serious intent to hire. Since you say you fall into neither group, one has to wonder why YOU like to hang out in there. (I hope you won't claim it's for journalistic purposes since the only hard & fast info you've ever offered is what's going on inside your head--not exactly a matter of widespread, all-consuming interest here, I'd say.)

 

2) For someone who presumes to set up a Gaiety website (even an 'unofficial' one), you seem to know very little about how the greenroom operates or how other patrons interact with the dancers.

The dancers are there to make money. Knowing that some potential clients are very shy, most of them are prepared to take the initiative in doing business. But the moment a patron makes it clear he's not interested, they back off. I've been going to the Gaiety since you were a pre-schooler, and I can tell you that I can hardly recall an incident (witnessed or experienced directly) of any dancer giving a patron who politely says 'thanks but no thanks' a hard time of any kind. Mind you, I'm not saying it NEVER happened, but when it did, I assure you that it was provoked by some rudeness or other imbecility on the part of the patron himself. Some Gaiety dancers may be more awkward than others in making the pitch, but they don't importune customers. (And anyone who did wouldn't be re-engaged by Denise, I promise you; yet I note in your story that this dancer had already appeared there on one of your prior visits.) In light of all this, your claims of being 'harassed' are about as credible as those made, in a very different context, by the lovely Paula Corbin Jones.

 

3) NYObserver offers us a review of the talent on display, not an anthropoligical study of goings-on at the Gaiety. Even so, he HAS described the greenroom scene (in general and in particular instances) over the course of the months, and anyone reading his stuff regularly would have ample preparation for experiencing it firsthand. Besides, in these days of widespread panhandling and dinnertime telemarketing, most grownups already know how to deal with a sales pitch that doesn't interest them.

 

3) No one expects you to impart the secrets of the universe. But if you're going to have a Gaiety website, how about giving us the names of the dancers appearing there--just for starters. (You were still running LAST week's lineup when I checked it yesterday.) Not that it would be any great contribution to our collective knowledge. As I've said elsewhere, anyone can find this out any given Monday afternoon after 1:30 by calling Denise at 212-221-8868 and asking her.

 

4) You confirm my surmise that you considered the dancer 'homophobic,' while still failing to see that it doesn't jibe at all with a claim that he (seriously) offered to go party with you gratis.

 

5) You tell us all the reactions you WEREN'T seeking with the post, but you still don't say what DID motivate it. As shown above, you can't really pretend you were 'warning' others of something they might need to know but were not already aware of.

 

6) Finally, saying something is your 'opinion' as opposed to NYObserver's explains nothing. Everybody posts here to offer, challenge or agree with some opinion or other. The question to you--still unswered--is: why?

[Boston Guy]

RE: Weird indeed

 

Boy, Josh certainly seems to have hit a sore nerve here!

 

I admit his initial post sounded a bit exaggerated to me. But criticisms of the Gaiety are not, or at least should not, be out of bounds here. Anyone who has had any experience with that place would have to admit that the guys there are generally not going to give the kind of value any good NYC-based escort would give. For $200 at the gaiety, you're generally going to be lucky to get 30 minutes of attention and sometimes even that is not going to be satisfactory. On an hourly basis, that's double the typical going rate.

 

And while the boys at the Gaiety may well be hot, many or most fall into the "gay-for-pay" category. But all of that is neither here nor there. Your comment:

 

there are those of us that enjoy the gaiety,

the shows and the "private shows"; we may

not be your cup of tea; just go away and

leave us to what we like to do. no one is

forced to go there and sit for three hours

to watch beautiful guys dance naked(unless

we have friends who want to go???).no one is

forced to talk to the guys. no one is forced

to go on "privates". get a life and leave us

alone.

 

really seems to this reader to be rude and out of the spirit of this board. You are certainly entitled to your own opinion and you may disagree with Josh, but it doesn't seem quite right that he should be told to "get a life and leave us alone" for posting his opinion.

[Bilbo]

RE: Weirder and weirder

 

A gay man is not necessarily homophobic when he rudely calls another one a fairy. If I tried gently to chat up a rather shy looking person, and he was noncommital (or appeared to be as one can do when one is trying to be nice and say no at the same time) and then found out that he had the attitude towards prostitution that this guy has, I might call him that myself.

Just like the manager of my apartment building, a senora of an uncertain age, called an hispanic troublemaker a wetback.

On an only slightly related not, remember it is racist to refuse to call a black leather bottom a boy.

[Guest Josh Daniels]

RE: Weirder and weirder

 

What's weird to me is how quick some of you guys are jumping to the hustler's defense. I'm just a different kind of person than those of you who like to make deals with a hustler. Oh and the comment that I shouldn't be able to go into the lounge without being hasseled is outrageous. Any customer there should be able to go and talk to their friends who come to see the show without having to deal with any kind of rudeness from the dancers. As for this guy telling me to "leave us alone and get a life", I bet you are probably a regular who likes this particular dancer. To each his own but the point of this message was to relate an experience and to see if others out there have had soemthing similar happen to them. Last but definitely not least, I have said this repeatedly that I made statements on the gaiety web page that were strictly my opinion. Of course not everyone was going to agree with me.

[Guest Josh Daniels]

RE: Weirder and weirder

 

Oh and one last thing, I guess it may be a difference in age and where you people are coming from. You are more suspicious of where I'm coming from than the prostitute. More and more I am finding out younger gay guys don't like going to The Gaiety and aren't comfortable there. The ones I've met have talked with me about that. It could be the subject of another posting but back to this one. I was minding my own business, keeping to myself like I usually do, and talking to a friend of mine in the lounge when this dancer started with me. Yes I agree that a lot of the dancers are there to make money and leave customers like me alone. Most of them don't bother me when they see me or they'll give me nasty glances like Kirk. I expect that but not this other silliness and baiting. Deep down I'm sure a lot of these gay-for-hire guys are homophobes. That's fine but they should keep their mouths shut and not provoke a patron OR not be there in the first place. That's just my opinion even though some of you don't want to hear it.

[Traveller]

RE: Weirder and weirder

 

You can't get a cocktail to take the edge off the ecstacy/coke/viagra mix at the Gaiety while you can at Stellas. Also, I've found that many more of the performers at Stellas are gay (or at least can get and maintain a raging hard on). End of discussion. See you there after midnight on Saturday.

[Guest Josh Daniels]

RE: Weirder and weirder

 

Thanks for the tip. See you there sometime!

[Guest MR BURNT]

RE: Weird indeed

 

Okay girls, I think it's about time to wrap this whole deal up. First of all I know Denise more years than you have pubic hairs. She is a sweetheart and a good friend of mine. As far as some of the dancers Josh is 100% correct. First they better get their heads on straight. We are the customers and how dare they abuse any one. We love "that Canadian boy" who loves to rip off people and is proud of it! But you guys just come back for more. Oh and listen, I have been going to the Gaiety since I was a young "hottie" and propositioned by many guys. So no crap to me about new timer. Now I am a seasoned veteran. I don't go much anymore cause most of the boys are "a holes" I go to see my friends and have some yuks. Oh yeh we are supposed to have fun. But what is all this idolizing and protecting these boys? You know it's a conveyor belt of "meat" and next week the new meat is the chase. Then the boys from down south are forgotten. So let's get a life and remember it's just entertainment and oh of course prostitution!

[Guest MR BURNT]

RE: Weird indeed

 

hey big joey what does kirk charge for that weekend. and did he make you breakfast?

[Guest Skeptic]

RE: Weirder and weirder

 

Oh, great! (Thanks a lot, Traveller.) I guess we can expect the 'unofficial Stella's Website' any day now--with Josh explaining that he only goes there to play the video baseball game.

[+ bigjoey]

RE: Weirder and weirder

 

mr burnt:kirk is a couple of thousand dollars for a weekend from friday to monday. in a relaxed situtation he is not that big a jerk and it's two and a half days and three nights of all the sex you want, whenever you want it. who gets up in time(or at least out of bed) for breakfast?kirk can be very sensual and that body and dick are beautiful.

 

boston guy:i do not mean to imply that one should not be critical of the gaiety; i do have some complaints myself. however, i find mr daniels' complaints (and his web site) mean spirited. no one forces him to go there and he says he is "uncomfortable going there", so why go?

 

denise will fire a dancer who causes trouble. an example is kirk's brother who she fired. now he advertises in the local papers and from the reviews on this site is riping people off who hire him from the papers. bottom line, there are good and bad dancers at the gaiety; there are good and bad escorts in the papers and on the web. READ THE REVIEWS ON THIS SITE AND GO WITH THE GOOD GUYS.it's not rocket science.

 

to josh:i don't know what dancer insulted you(you think i know). i live in the midwest and get to nyc about 3 times a year so i am not one of the "regulars".yes, some of the guys there are older and always seem to be the same guys in the same seats(just like on "cheers" where norm and everyone sat in the same seats).however, there are also younger guys there and some of the guys in the audience are as good looking as the dancers(i said "some"). if you do go back to the gaiety, you don't need to go into the side room to talk to your friends; i have never heard anyone in the audience complain about anyone talking during a show.

 

the dancers are there to earn a buck and it would be very unusual for one to waste time with a person who is not a potential customer and to create a scene that could turn off other potential customers who saw/heard one being mistreated. could it happen?yes, anything can happen. while many of the dancers are not the sharpest knives in the drawer, they are smarter than that.also, they know that denise will fire them as during the current mayor's regime she does not want any trouble(actually, in fairness to the mayor, she has always fired dancers who would cause trouble).

 

it's clear to me you don't like being in a place where there is prostitution(never run for congress) and you have issues with kirk(you mention him again as well as featuring him on you web site). i will not defend kirk as he can be a "jerk"; get over him. some day he will be old and he'll be the one paying for sex. all i am saying is just don't go or if you do, avoid the dancers.

 

again, there are good and bad dancers; the good ones can be very nice; ny observer has turned me on to a few; the reviews have helped, too. some of the guys are very nice and i am friendly with some who have retired and we get together as friends. you can find nice people just about anywhere; just treat people decently and you'll often be treated the same. just go and enjoy the show for what it is.

[Guest Josh Daniels]

RE: Weirder and weirder

 

Big Joey,

 

You are preaching to the choir. I know what you mean, but if I want to go into the lounge area to get a drink or whatever, I shouldn't have to feel intimidated by them. Other guys in the audience and even some dancers have complained about people talking in the audience. As for Kirk, he has never approached me which shows he's wise. I wouldn't give him a wooden penny let alone thousands of dollars, but that's just my feeling. The dancer I was talking about kept touching me and flirting even after I made it clear I would never pay him. After awhile, it got old and when I showed even less interest he decided to give me attitude and make fun of me. I was never rude to him though and was always friendly. I know this seems like a wild story, but it happened. My friend saw it so I don't care if some of you choose not to believe me. I was just wondering if this happened to anyone else. Maybe this particular dancer likes toying with people or maybe deep down he's struggling with his own sexual identity and was taking his frustration out on me. I honestly don't know. I just think guys like that should not be dancing at The Gaiety period. As for a Stella's page, I believe there already is one on Geocities Skeptic dear but probably not as amusing. Oh and I do like playing the video games by the way. Especially when I'm being fucked from behind while doing so. Just kidding! Have a sense of humor.

[Guest Skeptic]

RE: Weirder and weirder

 

Josh, I still can't figure out what your game is, but your posts continue to have 'bogus' written all over them. BigJoey has already dealt with (and put down) most of the silliness--and done it with more charity and patience than I could ever muster--so I'll comment only on your latest.

 

Your rationale for not just staying in the auditorium is a laughable contortion act at best. For one thing, there's no water fountain in the longue, so you needn't risk predatory dancers in passing through that dangerous terrain in search of water. (Even the way to the men's room has its own corridor, quite separated from the greenroom.) As for talking in the auditorium, if there REALLY have been complaints about it, surely it must have involved loud-mouthed, obnoxious behavior, not the normal chitchat of people sitting together. (You're not loud-mouthed or obnoxious, are you? And, anyway, do complaints really faze you?)

 

Your last bit of bogusness is the claim that you put out the tale that started this thread to see if anyone else has had the traumatic experience you were forced to endure.

 

Well, the answer to that would seem to be:

'No, not really. Why do you ask?'

 

BTW, just what is it that the existing Stella's website isn't as amusing as?

[Guest Ken]

RE: Weirder and weirder

 

OK guys, stop shitting all over Josh. It's obvious that he has a problem and frankly, I for one don't care what it is. We can easily see from his statements that he thinks himself "way above" the regular Gaiety patron. (whatever that is). Maybe somebody as good looking as he is shouldn't go to the lounge of the Gaiety, where dancers may be jealous of him and somehow try to demean him (in front of everybody).

Since some of you have commented on your familiarity with Denise and the dancers at the Gaiety, do any of you know of Tyler, a dancer from Long Island who use to dance there but hasn't been seen in a while. Someone said they thought Denise had banned him from ever appearing there. Is this so and if yes, why?? What happened?

[Guest Josh Daniels]

RE: Weirder and weirder

 

Not as amusing as some of the responses to this posting. You really need to lighten up, but with a name like Skeptic, you were the last person I expected to believe me anyway. I can be loud but I don't think necessarily abnoxious. I still have no idea why I am the suspicious one and not the prostitute. By the way, I also go into the lounge to talk to one of my friends who works there. Gimme a break. This is the last comment I will make. If any of you wanna ask me any other questions about this, e-mail me privately by going to the main page of my website hometown.aol.com/nycrules. I'm sure Hooboy would appreciate not letting this posting drag on and on. Sorry Hooboy. I guess this was too touchy of a subject for some. A lot of this hostility is actually worse than the kind that inspired me to post this message in the first place.

[Guest MR BURNT]

RE: Weirder and weirder

 

YOU QUEENS DON'T REALLY GET IT! THESE PROSTITUTES AND THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE NEED BE A LITTLE MORE RESPECTFUL. REMEMBER GIRLS WE ARE THE CUSTOMERS. THIS IS NOT FUCKING MADONNA. ARE ALL YOUR LIVES SO SHALLOW THAT THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN HAVE FRIENDSHIP AND SEX IS TO PAY FOR IT? AND NONE OF YOU NEED GIVE ME YOUR B.S. BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN AROUND MANY BLOCKS. THINK OF IT OVER $2000 TO KIRK FOR A WEEKEND. WHAT DOES THAT SAY FOR YOU. PROBLEM IS YOU HAVE MONEY TO BURN OR PISS AWAY AND THESE ASSHOLE KIDS NOW THINK THAT FOR $200 HUNDRED MAYBE YOU CAN TOUCH THEM. YOU KNOW WHAT KEEP IT! AND AS FOR HARRASSMENT IN THE LOUNGE I HAVE SEEN IT ON MANY OCCASIONS. THEY DON'T FUCK WITH ME BECAUSE I WILL TELL THEM TO KISS OFF. OH AND YES BY THE WAY I AM THE SO CALLED LOUD MOUTH YOU REFER TO. HEY AREN'T WE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A GOOD TIME OR ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE IN "AWE" OF THESE SO CALLED "STARS"? REMEMBER GIRLS NEXT WEEK THERE IS ALWAYS A NEW PIECE OF MEAT! AND WHERE WILL KIRK, MATTHEW OR OTHERS BE IN 3 YEARS? WILL YOU REMEMBER? OR WILL YOU EVEN CARE? POINT IS DON'T SHIT ON THE CUSTOMERS. AND YOU FOLKS BY SUPPORTING IT DON'T HELP!

[Guest Skeptic]

RE: Weirder and weirder

 

Well, well, well, you really HAVE been burnt, poor baby, haven't you? Third-degree, I'd say, over 83% of your once-lovely body. Reduced to typing with a pencil clenched between your teeth, and the caps lock down. Sad. . .

 

Perhaps it's affected your brain and vision, too. I've just re-read this whole thread, and it has far, far less to do with 'defending' and 'protecting' the Gaiety boys than it has with the silly posturings and adolescent self-absorbtion of your soul-mate, Josh.

 

I can do nothing to alleviate your suffering, alas, but I do have something helpful to say to Josh:

 

Since you're such a good friend of someone who works there (Ramon? Or is it the gay security guard we call 'The Imam'?) why not take all your little complaints to him? Surely that would be more effective than railing against prostitutes to a group of men who habitually--and happily--consort with them, no?

[Guest Josh Daniels]

RE: Weirder and weirder

 

Skeptic,

 

Aren't we being rather bitchy? I'm the one who was self-absorbed and adolescent?? Now I know you are defending this messed up kid for some reason. You probably cash that social security check and scrape as much money together as you can to give this borderline sociopath. I thought about saying something to people I know who work there like my friend, but I knew creating drama and attention is probably something this kid thrives on. And Mr. Burnt is not my significant other. I have no idea who he is. What is it that makes you feel better about yourself putting me down? You're as bad as the hustler. Notice how you did not question this guy and his intentions. Immediately you point the finger at me and call my claims bogus. I've got one thing to say people like you - go fuck yourself and get real!

[Guest Ken]

RE: Weirder and weirder

 

Josh

 

Whatever happened to your quote: "Gimme a break. This is the last comment I will make. If any of you wanna ask me any

other questions about this, e-mail me privately by going to the main page of my website hometown.aol.com/nycrules.

I'm sure Hooboy would appreciate not letting this posting drag on and on."

 

He's not the only one who wishes you would shut up and JUST GO AWAY TO YOUR WEBSITE.

[HooBoy]

RE: Weirder and weirder

 

When the posts' stoop to telling someone to go F**K themselves, I'm afraid you're violating the terms of service.

 

I am going to freeze this thread, which means it can still be seen, but not posted to.

 

I am also removing the individual's write to post anywhere on this message center.

 

I'm sorry I allowed this to go on so long. I believe in Freedom of Speech, but I think it should be someonewhat tasteful, even if we're dealing with trashy subjects here.

 

HooBoy