Escorts who are Tops

[Guest Ca Robert]

I realize this may be an indelicate question. I am a top, and therefore hire bottoms or versitile men. I do this more often than I can afford, but I deal with it.

 

I've always wondered how top escorts can perform with clients they aren't attracted to in anyway. I realize that hygine is important, and I therefore bath, etc., before I engage an escort.

 

How do escorts handle it when they are repulsed or turned off by the client? Do you feel the need to return the money, or do you have special techniques to become hard?

 

And I will say the escorts I've engaged generally act as if they're into the action.

[JT Brooklyn]

Since some CLIENT'S would find the "Working Guys" Answer to this question a little "insulting". LOL I will answer for the Guys....

 

V I A G R A -CIALIS-LIVITRA ...Then just Think about what your going to spend the Rate your getting Paid on! RENT- Flat Screen-Ipod etc ;-)

[Guest josephga]

i always wonder that too.

[whipped guy]

Taken in a general sense this question basically describes any typical service oriented business situation. When dealing with the public it is impossible for the service provider to be enamored (almost literally in the case of escorts) with every client. That is where professionalism and the ability to look beyond the superficial come into play… Of course, the “fee for service” aspect certainly helps ameliorate a tough situation where there is a clash or conflict of personalities between the provider and the client.

 

Consequently, if the service provider wants to please his customers he must be an actor of sorts and at the very least give the impression that he actually likes working with the offending client. In essence sometimes one literally has to hold their nose, look the other way, or keep their eyes closed. That’s what keeps people in business and is the sign of a true professional. Still, it is impossible to connect perfectly with every client one hundred percent of the time (and there are quite al few tough cookies out there) but that should be the goal.

 

Of course, in the escort world there are the adjuncts to which those in the business world are not privy. Yes, Viagra, Cialis, and Livitra as JT mentions above. Would that there were similar magic elixirs to help doing business more effectively with the public at large…

[seeker630]

It's much easier to force or fake a smile than an erection ;-)

[pegasian]

>It's much easier to force or fake a smile than an erection

>;-)

 

 

Haven't you watched gay porn? In the age of VIAGRA it is easier to FAKE an ERECTION. Sex performers are NOT always known for their acting skills.:+

[seeker630]

Yep - I HAVE watched gay porn (a shocking admission, I know!)

 

They're not faking an erection if they're taking Viagra, etc. - the erection is real.

 

But I think many of us still look for some indicators of attraction/interest beyond a hard cock - especially since we know about the chemical assists available.

[Juan Vancouver]

Hey Robert!

 

I am still a little surprised no colleague of mine has responded to your post, I do not think it is an indelicate question at all, in fact is the most common question that I imagine we get.I am also a little shocked by some of the responses that you have so far gotten, making the assumption that this is all about chemicals and good acting skills. (Or money.) Whenever I have hired an escort myself, I have done it only if I am entirely certain that he likes his work, that he can find me attractive and that we both are going to have a good time. I would never ever hire again if I had to negotiate in my mind with the concept that I am going to be with someone who will be "acting" or relying on a pill. (Or even worse, trying to contain the revulsion that I elicit in him. God that would be hell!)

 

A Psychiatrist friend of mine says that it is a very peculiar profile, almost an oddity or a "condition", but we have often come into social contact with escorts that exhibit the same characteristics:

 

A profound calling to be an escort since a very early age,

 

A very pronounced desire to give pleasure and be turned on because of the certainty that his partner is feeling good because of his presence.

 

A very sensitive, responsive body, with many erogenous zones, quite easy to be aroused.

 

A high libido, that if it is not channeled adequately becomes a cause of discomfort.

 

And of course, an ability to find something beautiful, something sweet, kind, gentle, tender, desirable in every single human being that he interacts with.

 

On the bad side of things, to show that this is not a bed of roses, almost all of them also exhibit a pronounced desire to be loved and appreciated, and an underlying sense of insecurity.

 

He has been working with escorts and he divides them in two: The incidental rentboy, the one who turns tricks because he thinks he can't do anything else and doesn't like it but thinks he can make a lot of money out of it. (They never do. Make money, that is.) And the Born-to-be-Ho, who exhibits all those characteristics, even if some have been dealt with and attenuated in one way or another.

 

Did I forget to mention that they often also show evident signs of poor spelling? :+

 

Now, the only thing that has ever repulsed me in a client has been rudeness and disrespect for me, himself, my profession and human interaction. When I have encountered that I simply remove myself from the place. The other thing that is hard to deal with but you always find a way is bad hygiene. Remember that we all want to be liked, so if you explain someone that their likeability (Is that even a word?) can improve with this or that, they are often receptive.

 

Next time you are with an escort, if you have done your research correctly, if this is a guy who has sustainedly good reviews and has been doing this not out of need but out of conviction, I invite you to allow yourself to -even if only for a minute- surrender to the idea that he is having as great a time as you. Even if only once, allow yourself to believe that when you touch his body and he moans, he is moaning out of pleasure, and that if he is rock hard it is because he is turned on because he is with you. Not because of some fantasy he is playing in his mind. Not because because he is thinking of the "green bills" as so many people say so surely. (You try to get turned on thinking about money and you'll see.) And not because he has taken some pill that will make him see you or perceive you in a different way than you are.

 

It is because of you. It it because of something beautiful in you. It is because of something tender and sweet, and enjoyable in you. It is because you and doing things to his body that gives him pleasure. It is because you are turned on by him and he likes that. It is because you are receiving pleasure from him and he gets turned on by that. It is because he was born to do this job and he loves it.

 

 

And just to close this post that as always is getting a little out of hand in lenght, a friend of mine who pops Viagra as if they were candy says that no matter how many erectile disfunction drugs you pop, they will not give you a boner. They will only facilitate the process by which your body keeps blood in the cavernous body in the penis thus allowing it to stay hard. The only agent capable of bringing the blood in, is... AROUSAL. He has tried to get hard by people he is not into with two viagras in him to no avail.

 

The drugs may keep your escort hard. But it is you who caused that boner.

 

I, for one, would enjoy good sex so much more if I knew that my partner is enjoying me as much as I am enjoying him.

 

Shocking thing, is that while you are thinking those hot dumb boys are really good actors aided by really powerful drugs, thinking of the money they will get off you, they may in fact be really talented appreciators of human beauty, and they may be having a riot with you.

 

What works better for you?

 

Enjoy the ride, stud!!

[Guest TBinCHI]

As always, an incredibly thoughtful post from an incredibly thoughtful man. It brings back VERY fond memories of experiencing in person what he writes about.

[Rick Munroe]

>I am still a little surprised no colleague of mine has

>responded to your post

 

Hey, if we're "colleagues," does that mean we have to wear a jacket and tie, attend company picnics, and remove our eyeglasses to make a point during a presentation?

 

>I would never ever hire again if I had to negotiate

>in my mind with the concept that I am going to be with someone

>who will be "acting" or relying on a pill. (Or even

>worse, trying to contain the revulsion that I elicit in him.

>God that would be hell!

 

I've never hired, but if I were to, I might actually prefer someone who's "gay for pay," who isn't turned on by me at all, and who might even ignore me while I service him (Okliehomo's recent story of an appointment gone wrong would have actually worked for me as the client). I guess it's the same reason that men who are dominant and in-charge at the workplace (or in Life in general) sometimes like to be very submissive in the bedroom...to experience a side of life they don't usually know. Without meaning to sound egotistical, I have plenty of sex with guys who are attracted to me, so it would be a big turn-on to be with someone who's not into me at all. I would get off on the humiliation of it.

 

>A profound calling to be an escort since a very early age

 

I heard a calling, but it was my mother telling me to "Turn off the goddamn TV and go help your father mow the fucking lawn!" Mom: heart of gold; mouth of a truck driver.

 

>On the bad side of things, to show that this is not a bed of

>roses, almost all of them also exhibit a pronounced desire to

>be loved and appreciated, and an underlying sense of

>insecurity.

 

I can agree with the desire to be loved (who doesn't?) but not the insecurity. Maybe it's because I have a stable, long-term relationship...

 

Anyway, I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of your post. If we didn't find something (and usually, many things) sexually exciting about the guys we see, Derek and I would have quit doing this long ago. And you're right that any of the e.d. drugs are useless if you aren't turned on, which is why we never bother with them. (Although a friend gave us some Levitra samples last year, and we had some fun experimenting with it on our own...and after we fucked, when our hardons wouldn't go down, we enjoyed walking down the avenue, freeballing in sweatpants...) }(

[+ purplekow]

and after we fucked, when our hardons

>wouldn't go down, we enjoyed walking down the avenue,

>freeballing in sweatpants...) }(

 

Opening scene of your movie. You and Derek walking down the street in sweatpants, hardons obvious in full swing. The gentle refrain of Stayin Alive playing in the background as you walk in time to the music, camera changing from your crotch to his to the smiling face of a passers by. And scene...

 

 

I have never seen a purplekow;

I never hope to see one;

I can tell you anyhow;

I'd rather see than be one

 

Help there is a purplekow in my mirror

[Rick Munroe]

>And of course, an ability to find something beautiful,

>something sweet, kind, gentle, tender, desirable in every

>single human being that he interacts with.

 

Juan, I agree with this (although it's not always "tender and sweet"...not when the guy is a dominant top!) but I'm curious about something. If you have the ability to be turned on by and attracted to all types, how come when you've written about non-escorting hookups (or about the guy you were dating), they've been young, smooth, muscular, hung, etc. guys and never older, paunchier, balding daddy types? (I could be wrong, though, because I admittedly don't read or retain all posts here.) Personally, one of the reasons I started escorting was that I realized that (back when I used to look for recreational sex) I was already attracted to, looking for and hooking up with such a broad range of guys, many of whom could be stereotypically described as "client types"...while some were young, tight, pretty, hung and gay, others were older, out of shape, modestly endowed, married, bi, etc. But I never see any other escort (on this board) talking about those types; it's always other muscular, young and hung hotties. ...I'm losing my train of thought so I'll end here! This heat has me distracted and horny...

[Guest PWIT]

Derek is definitely not the 'client' type....it must be so tough for you living with someone that is hot, has abs and is hung }(

[Rick Munroe]

>The

>gentle refrain of Stayin Alive playing in the background as

>you walk in time to the music, camera changing from your

>crotch to his to the smiling face of a passers by.

 

And then reality comes crashing in as a gaggle of Sex and the City girls giggle and shriek and go "eeww!" (Which actually happened, too.) The New Chelsea, ladies and gentlemen.

[Rick Munroe]

>Derek is definitely not the 'client' type....

 

But we all know (I hope) that there is no "client type." Clients and escorts come in all shapes and sizes and ages. Remember, I was referring to the stereotype, and stereotypes are often wrong. My point was that I was hooking up with a broad range of guys...I guess my wording was sloppy.

 

>it must be so

>tough for you living with someone that is hot, has abs and is

>hung }(

 

I make the best of a bad situation. But you know, when I met him he was not a big muscle beast...I liked little skinny twinks then and he fit the bill. And I never noticed his big dick (which looked even bigger on his skinny, smooth body) for the first few weeks, even though he was always hard and wearing loose trousers with boxers. I was a shy virgin.

[Tristan Waters]

I am a top only escort, and I enjoy sex. That is how I am able to keep myself hard. I dont think that an escort can be successful unless they truly enjoy what they do, whether it be a bottom or a top.

 

 

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http://www.tristanwaters.com

 

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[Guest PWIT]

>I liked little skinny twinks then and he fit the bill.

>And I never noticed his big dick (which looked even bigger

>on his skinny, smooth body) for the first few weeks, even

>though he was always hard and wearing loose trousers with

>boxers.

 

skinny? smooth? would have never imagined that. And you, were you also a twink? you must dig up some pics

 

>I was a shy virgin.

 

shy?

[Rick Munroe]

>skinny? smooth? would have never imagined that.

 

Well, maybe not completely smooth; there was a light dusting of silky blond hair in places, but it was nothing like the Ape Man he is today.

 

>And you,

>were you also a twink?

 

Yeah, but we never used that word back then. But we were definitely boys, not men. Weighed about 50 pounds less, too.

 

>you must dig up some pics

 

Remind me next time we see you; I can bring some. Or maybe I'll scan something and post it...he'll kill me, but it'll be worth it.

 

>>I was a shy virgin.

>

>shy?

 

LOL Sometimes, when I'm being really sexually aggressive with Derek (which he loves), he'll say, "Whatever happened to that shy, sweet boy I married?" at which point I shove his jock in his mouth. Hey, we all have to grow up eventually.

[best hotel]

RE: juan's response

 

...juan....wow...your clients are lucky men....i wish you were escorting in nyc....i would love to show you my appreciation of your thoughtful words as well as your beauty

[Fun Bottom]

Re: Juan Vancouver's reply - absolutely right !

I've only been with one escort, regularly, for the past year and a half.

I've had that conversation - because - for some reason - it is important to me to feel that he is enjoying what we do together; and I didn't know how to judge if he's "acting" because I'm "paying." Over time, I've come to believe him. He said - he wonders why people assume that if you are in the sex business, or are an escort, that you necessarily lie.

There are cues that I have to trust; communications with words,

feelings, touch. I love giving pleasure as much as I receive it. Don't know how to find others like him. Other profiles just don't match up

(Los Angeles). I've had "mechanical" erotic massages. I'd just as soon beat my own meat if it's going to be mechanical.

It's a good question though; and sometimes I wonder why it's an important question. However he does it, he makes me feel young

(I'm over 30 years older than he is) and desirable. I don't know that I could do that; and if it's a skill that he has honed over the years

(he's been working for a while), then more power to him.

And I would like to meet other men as wonderful as I feel he is.

 

Fun Bottom

[Juan Vancouver]

Dear Rick,

 

Sorry about responding to this just now. I have been traveling and have barely had time to eat, sleep and fuck. }(

 

First of all I am very happy that you agree with most of my post. To be very honest most of it comes from my friend's research work and professional experience, not from my own. I have only found that most of what he thinks about the "Born To Be Ho" profile is also true in my case in one way or another. He has never found a BTBH (Born to be Ho) before that didn't exhibit an awareness of some sort of calling, some sort of vocation. However, considering that you seem to like what you do, you may be the exception that confirms the rule. I am also glad that you do not feel any insecurity. He may have yet to discover that there may be BTBH that do not match the entire profile. I leave that to him.

 

Now, when it comes to types and preferences, I am glad again that even if you have chosen at any given time to have a relationship with either a young, blond-fuzzed, hung as a springtime donkey total top twink, or a built as a brick house, hairy muscle god, you also like what you say could stereotypically be described as "A client type." To be honest I am not sure what you mean mean by that stereotype. I have been escorting for almost four years and wouldn't be able to find any common denominator between any of them beside the fact that they are exquisitely individual human beings. You write about the older, paunchier, balding daddy type as if it exemplified anything, and to be honest it doesn't ring a bell as the beautiful men that I have the pleasure to work with.

 

It is my belief, dear Rick, that when showed the same person, two witnesses would be able to describe their perception in many different ways. One would say "Yes, this is the classical client stereotype, short, old, balding and paunchier" while the other person would perhaps say "Yes, this is a very sexy guy, with green piercing eyes, huge beautiful strong hands, a deep, sultry, masculine voice and a pair of balls like a bull's between his legs".

 

It is possible, Rick, that in the past whenever I have described a deeply fulfilling sexual experience that I have had I may have been focusing in the overwhelmingly alluring traits that turned me on so intensely about my partner... whereas I could have been describing the same person as an older, paunchier, balding daddy.

 

Truth is that once I have focused on the unique beauty that someone owns, it is very hard for me to go back and see them in the same way that some of my friends would see them.

 

As for the man I was dating... I think you may have been thinking about someone else. I am really not sure what you mean, since I have been happily married for quite a long time. I guess it is just normal, we are so many in this forum and I am can imagine how posts can get mixed up so easily. If you find the post, however, I may be able to offer you an unedited clarification.

 

Point is: Yes, I like beauty. I am a greedy appreciator of it. Guilty as charged.

 

However it occurs to me that we may be thinking about entirely different things when we say beauty and we may be able to find that beauty in entirely different places.

 

And No; I don't remember having met with any older, paunchier, balding daddy type guy as a client. I have been blessed with the opportunity to meet with men that were very unique, sensual, interesting, beautiful in every different, peculiar way. All of them entirely desirable, sexy men.

 

Thank you for your response. I think that it is this fine-tuning what makes this process of communication even more interesting.

 

My warmest wishes to you and Derek, and my sincere congratulations for your continued and no doubt very deserved success.

 

Please receive a tight hug.

[Andre]

I was really young when I went into this business and to say the least I was a horny 19 year old that would get a hard on by just rubbing my hand. I learned to focus my attention on the qualities of the person rather than the faults and my definition of old, young, hot, and ugly is probably very different from the one most people have in mind.

[Guest CURIOUS35]

>I was really young when I went into this business and to say

>the least I was a horny 19 year old that would get a hard on

>by just rubbing my hand. I learned to focus my attention on

>the qualities of the person rather than the faults and my

>definition of old, young, hot, and ugly is probably very

>different from the one most people have in mind.

 

 

:9 :9 :9 :9 :9

Amen I can attest to that! Andre was going down with the flu or something and could have just begged off the appointment that was set up a few weeks back at the time of our appointment. But the show went on...we met the first day for blocking, costumes and lunch...the next appointment was for the complete dress rehearsalprior to the Grand Opening nite at the Lyric Opera..., with costumes, lights and orchestra,was fabulous! I am waiting for the Opening day show as was promised!!! Andre? llama me por favor? When is your scheduled Windy City tour?

 

P.S. I promised a regular poster here, I will definitely post a review after the Grand Opening Show I will have with Andre!