Been asked before... When to pay, and some other questions

[Guest novabear22031]

Have seen the topic discussed here before here, but did a search and could not find anything that seemed to help. So I'll ask the age old question again; along with some related ones also.

 

- So when is a client expected/supposed to pay?

 

- Is it based on whether it is an incall or outcall?

 

- If payment is asked for upfront (a warning signal - from what some say), does it matter that they have good reviews here or elsewhere?

 

In my first hire, it was asked that I pay upfront once we were on the cruise ship. But I felt comfortable in that because of the detailed info we shared in order to book the trip. And al worked out well.

 

Have a few more hires planned as I set my summer travel plans. Some will be incalls, others will be outcalls. Want to know how to properly handle the payment issue.

 

Some secondary questions come up too.

 

- Am I too paranoid in thinking that if I have an outcall to my hotel that I should lock-up my valuables, before their arrival? I am not thinking of hiring off of the CL; but some on other sites have no reviews either.

 

- Along with the above question, what to do if the escort is nowhere what they said they were, or just appear "creepy" - before things get started? I know that as a client, if I showed up at an escorts door and said they had no interest (hard to believe, as honest as I try to be in booking - but it might happen), I would just walk away (disappointed), with out paying.

 

Thanks for the time in looking and possibly giving some insight for a newbie....

[SAdler]

>- So when is a client expected/supposed to pay?

 

The true answer is whatever the two of you arrange. Handbook, yes some incarnations of them exist, says that you keep the payment visible to both parties as an establishment of trust betweene scort and client.

 

Personally, I'm typically comfortable receiving the fee after the session is finished. Although it is a personal preference that clients hand me the money instead of just sticking it in my pocket; unless I know the guy a bad experience or two makes me think that it's an attempt to pull a fast one.

 

>- Is it based on whether it is an incall or outcall?

 

My theory is that you can never go wrong with an envelope with the escort's name on it. Leaving it out when the escort comes to you or setting it on the dresser when you walk in.

 

>- If payment is asked for upfront (a warning signal - from

>what some say), does it matter that they have good reviews

>here or elsewhere?

 

If you're considering paying someone in advance there better be a few good reviews specifically from reviewers that have credibility.

 

>In my first hire, it was asked that I pay upfront once we were

>on the cruise ship. But I felt comfortable in that because of

>the detailed info we shared in order to book the trip. And al

>worked out well.

 

Well you took a huge risk hiring someone you'd never met to spend more than two straight days in a cruise ship cabin with so it seems like you like the risks In truth for long term engagements with someone I'd never met I'll either not make the appointment till after a short trip together or ask for a third in advance.

 

>- Am I too paranoid in thinking that if I have an outcall to

>my hotel that I should lock-up my valuables, before their

>arrival? I am not thinking of hiring off of the CL; but some

>on other sites have no reviews either.

 

Depends on reviews. Same question can be posed of escorts dealing with clients. If you have a safe, it can't hurt to use it. Just make sure you have the money you're giving him ready or else it's a moot point

 

>- Along with the above question, what to do if the escort is

>nowhere what they said they were, or just appear "creepy" -

>before things get started? I know that as a client, if I

>showed up at an escorts door and said they had no interest

>(hard to believe, as honest as I try to be in booking - but it

>might happen), I would just walk away (disappointed), with out

>paying.

 

Politely thank them for their time and tell them it's not going to work and "and you think they know why." Same thing with online hooking up; I'll be a little more crass but if someone is trying to pull a fast one and hopes your penis has more blood in it than your brain it serves them right. Some clients will give a small dollar amount for their trouble. Continuing the hookup comparison, to me that's like giving a conciliatory handjob. Just make sure you're well within your rights to say that they REALLY don't match your pix and simply different lighting etc is the only problem.

 

Hope all that helps!

[valentino11]

">- So when is a client expected/supposed to pay?"

 

I dont know but I can tell you when NOT to pay...that would be before you meet him

[+ deej]

>- So when is a client expected/supposed to pay?

 

Exactly when you agreed in advance you would pay.

 

Yes, you should talk about this. If he's expecting the money up front, and you're not ready to provide it (and you shouldn't), you have discord right off the bat. You don't have that if you've discussed it and reached an agreement before you ever meet.

 

>- Is it based on whether it is an incall or outcall?

 

Not at all.

 

>- If payment is asked for upfront (a warning signal - from

>what some say), does it matter that they have good reviews

>here or elsewhere?

 

Good reviews ALWAYS matter, in ALL things.

 

Common sense matters a lot more, though. I once had an escort I'd never seen before ask to SEE the money up front, but he didn't ask me to give it to him. (I've since seen him many times, and he never asked again.) He explained that he'd recently been stiffed by a client who wanted him to go to an ATM after the session to get some cash. Naturally enough either the ATM wasn't working or there was "something wrong" with his account because that damn computer wasn't giving up any cash.

 

I don't have a problem showing the money (such as in an envelope on the dresser) up front, as long as it stays there.

 

Always lock up your valuables. Not just because of visitors, but also because of hotel staff. Housekeeping can be tempted, too, and they make a lot less than the average escort.

 

>- Along with the above question, what to do if the escort is

>nowhere what they said they were, or just appear "creepy" -

>before things get started?

 

Politely suggest "this won't work" and send them on their way, if they came to you. If you went to him, say the same thing and leave.

 

You MAY at some time find yourself confronted with roid rage or some other physical threat. In that case, give him the cash you otherwise would have given him and get rid of him. It's cheaper than medical care and everything else is locked up in the safe.

 

Common sense is really the only guide you need. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. And if there are warning signs, pay attention to them.

[JT Brooklyn]

IMHO..At least it has more or less been JT's Experience, that with First Time Meeting's, SOME Working Guy's will at least want to see that the $$ does exist! Don't Blame them in the least for that!

 

That I find No Problem with. "Working It" can have it's Hassle's Payment wise also. I know of 2 Popular Guy's, from Europe who got scammed with the Bad Check Routine! No not any Constantly Advertised Guys from this site! That's Why CASH should Talk, and Nobody will walk... Usually LOL

 

As far as "Stuffing it in their Pockets" BEFORE THE FACT, I and many other's feel, that is a little SKETCHY at best! BUT I Personally have never, the 2nd Time around (when there was one) had a guy even mention the $$.

[+ ArVaGuy]

It's best to clear up the payment issue during the booking process to eliminate any potential issues during the session. Whenever the guy want's money up front or a deposit its been a warning sign for me based on past experiences. When the escort arrives at my hotel I put the cash in an envelope and leave it out in plain sight.

 

If the escort is insistent about payment up front during our initial communications then I move on to someone else. I tell them that I respect their position but I am not comfortable and we may not be compatible. This has led to some backtracking by some guys but the relationship is damaged for me by then and so it's best for me to move on.

 

In regard to valuables, I keep mine secured all the time while staying in a hotel. My laptop is locked down, ususally to a leg of the desk, that's going to make it hard to just grab and run off with it. Since I work with hotels I am more concerned with guests or staff walking off than I am with the high quality guys I have hired. That said I usually have all my personal effects put away and secured to just make the room cleaner and more presentatable.

 

Speaking of cleaner and more presentable. Sometimes I will order a little snack from room service prior to the appointment time. Uaually a fruit or cheese plate. I have found this to be a great ice breaker and can come in handy after a particullary, ahem, "good time" we need to restore our energy levels for the next round. ;-)

 

There have been a few rare instances where the guy who shows up bears no resemblence to his pics. (Pics that may be 10 years old before his hair line receeded and his chest fell in to his waist. }( ) In those cases I have handed the guy $50 for his transportation and told him that it not going to work out. Its been a very, very long time since I had such an experience in part to this site and others that make it easier to find the quality guys.