I don't want to feel like I am just one more in a busy day...

[BigD]

Why would an escort tell me that he has a client scheduled before me and after me? This happened recently with a escort who was traveling. It really turned me off. I know you have to make a living, but please don't tell me that you are fitting me in between other clients. Does anyone want to hear that? Also, my regular escort recently called me to tell me he was running late because he had taken "another call." He said he knew I would understand. I didn't and I don't. Bear in mind that I had been seeing this guy on a weekly basis for about 6 months. I wish he had called and lied that there was a traffic jam or something. Him bringing me the left overs after his other call didn't turn me on. Am I wrong on this?

BigD

[Greathands]

Not in the least. You're 100% on target.

[SAdler]

I thoroughly agree with you ... totally uncalled for.

 

>Why would an escort tell me that he has a client scheduled

>before me and after me? This happened recently with a escort

>who was traveling. It really turned me off. I know you have to

>make a living, but please don't tell me that you are fitting

>me in between other clients. Does anyone want to hear that?

 

Traveling is the only time that I ever break my rule about seeing more than one person in a day let alone as many in a week. My rule is typically a morning and an evening. The true decision maker is whether or not I can "fit in" some gym time. I figure that with the gym in between I'm more likely to fully recharge and be at my best for anyone concerned.

 

>Also, my regular escort recently called me to tell me he was

>running late because he had taken "another call." He said he

>knew I would understand. I didn't and I don't. Bear in mind

>that I had been seeing this guy on a weekly basis for about 6

>months. I wish he had called and lied that there was a traffic

>jam or something.

 

Yeah, lying is better but still in general the need to lie is a problem as well. But yes, I agree, lying is far better than the truth in this case if work is an ends to justify a means.

 

Then again, if he didn't cum from his previous appointment it kinda works to your benefit.

 

I don't do it often but there have been occasions when I'll have a "for pleasure" hookup shortly before an appointment to really get me ready. Kinda fun to make a physics equation out of everything in terms of a tranfer of energy.

 

The idea came from the client saying he wanted to get fucked knowing that I hadn't gotten off from a hot fuck right before. It worked so well I started doing it when I knew I had a power bottom in my future.

 

>Him bringing me the left overs after his

>other call didn't turn me on. Am I wrong on this?

 

So again I agree. What do you think about the above scenario though. Would something like that upset other clients?

[Guest TBinCHI]

Scott,

You are always talking about communication - so, the answer is that you should communicate with your client about whether that would turn him on. If he says yes, go for it. If not, you know the answer. But, as you recognize, it would be a mistake to tell him that you've done it without having asked him first.

 

As to the jibber jab from escorts about who else they fucked that day or the night before or about who they will fuck tomorrow - keep it to yourself unless you've been hired to play the slut. Most of us want to at least have the perception that we are more than just a bankroll in the bedpost.

[Vincent_Michael]

Big D I had somewhat of a similar experience with another client while I was traveling so this is a totally different perspective...First when I traveled to another city were I pay for the hotel and air fair I would assume that the client would know that I am going to see more that just one client, Also I would not hesitate in a moment to tell a client that I had others to see if they were running grossly late the reason being is that I have a schedule to keep and yes while I personally travel I am there to make money. As for you being preferd to being lied to I simply don't understand that logic as it is only fair to be open and honest on both sides of the communication no matter how undesirable.

 

I can't seem to get my mind off this lying issue as in my opinion I would rather have my feelings hurt and know the truth than being lied to also I don't know how anyone can say they have good communication skills and admit there any sort of known lier...Honesty is the policy!

 

I would also think that if you had a bad experience or were turned off that you should tell the escort and not vent in a public venue as the escort could possibly grow from this experience in a private setting.

[Guest TBinCHI]

Vincent,

I think you missed the point. I agree that if an escort is traveling and a client is running late, it may be appropriate to tell him that the appt. could be compromised because you have other obligations. That didn't seem to be the issue in BigD's case. And, his other escort should never have told him that he (the escort) was running late because he (the escort)took on a last minute appt.

 

I agree that lying isn't necessarily the best way to approach it, but what is wrong with just stating simple facts, i.e. I'm running late, would you like to reschedule?, rather than saying I'm running late because I just fucked another man silly? I'm guessing that for most of us clients, that is a major turn off.

[Vincent_Michael]

I agree I would never put in plain terms that I fucked someone silly and now I am going to be late to see you so I hope you don't mind...if I had an obligation to a client on a certain time I would be there unless I was something I couldn't control and would ask ASAP if we could reschedule. Also I can cum 5times in a day maybe 3times so I have never not gotten off with a client.

[Guest TBinCHI]

Ah, 5 times in one day...those were the days! Now I'm down to 4. Maybe we should get together - as long as neither one of us is running late, it could add up to a lot of cum!

[Tommygunzz]

This is a great topic.

 

First off---I do NOT want to hear how busy an escort is, and it doesn't matter if I am hiring in his hometown or mine. To me it is the ultimate turn off.

 

Second--If an escort is visiting my hometown, I don't want to read that he is "booking up fast" or that I should book my session early. I don't want to hear about your airfare and hotel expenses either, OK?

 

Third--I REALLY don't want to hear that an escort has booked a "for fun" appointment before he sees me. Why do I want to know that you are telling me about your decision to put your fun ahead of something that you are charging others for? What is professional about that?

 

Also, if you are helping another escort to pick out the new sheets for his apartment, please make a separate post about being the first to fuck him in them.

 

Fourth--Another post was all about making the appointment, and an escort's concern that emailing back and forth to book a session is such a waste of time. If time is money, then pick up the phone and cut through the crap. A serious client will give you a phone number. Quit complaining. Invest in a telephone, if for some reason you don't already have one.

 

Fifth--If you really are a professional, and want to compare your business to others who really are professional, stop the complaining. My doctor never mentions that I had to cancel my appointment. My attorney never complains. Stop acting like you are a 22 year old with a PhD in escorting. It doesn't exist.

 

Finally--I understand self-promotion, but discretion has to be part of that. I don't want to read about one escort's decision to post on here that he had a wild time with another guy AND ME that I hired with him. Some may be flattered, but if I am expecting discretion when I hire 2 guys, I want to be the one writing the review, not one of the guys who is sharing in my $$$$ for my experience.

[+ purplekow]

While "Don't Ask. Don't Tell" is a foolish policy in regard to the military, it may be a reasonable policy in the escorting world.

 

For clients, if you don't want to know you are in the third car of the roller coaster, don't ask about what's going on in front and in back.

Escorts, your business is your business and "Don't Tell" is a great general rule. The corollary being: "Tell if you are asked and if you can be discrete and if it will add to the client's experience. Tell and maybe embellish."

 

On the Flip side "Do Ask. Do Tell."

Clients do tell the escort what you want, what he can do to make the experience great for you.

Escorts do ask what the client is expecting, how he will be paying and when and if there is anything the client has be hesitating to ask out of embarassment or fear.

[Vincent_Michael]

Lets get this straight first a sex worker has sex with other clients; before you and after you whether you want to hear about it or not and if your looking for an escort to play the role of the virgin for you then you need to set that up ahead of time. Many of my clients get turned on to hear about some of my more intresting sexcapades! However I dont go out of my way to tell clients about later apointments unless they're lateness is going to affect a later client. I never put clients back to back I always allow for a certain amount of latness however some clients are extreamly inconsiderate and will often come two hours late and act offended when I have to postpone the apointment.

 

I personally am offended when I see posts that expect escorts to be ok with a last min canslations...we should just take kindly to being canceled on as if it was no big deal. If you cancel at the last min at any PhD or Attorney they would for sure charge you there fee at the min however what recourse does the escort have? "Burned in St Louis"

 

Many people try to negotiate and try to push my rates down and in that case I will tell them that I have travel expenses and I am here to make money and not just here to have fun. I am really amazed at how many clients have troubble differentating between fantasy and reality and become offended when reminded (this can be an unintentionally innocent remark) that I have sex with other people.

[SAdler]

>This is a great topic.

 

And here I was under the impression you and I had shared an olive branch. Oh well. Granted many of your comments aren't pointed directly at me but the bulk of them are. Regardless all of your rants really could have been done so much more respectfully. Where the hell do you come off?

 

>First off---I do NOT want to hear how busy an escort is, and

>it doesn't matter if I am hiring in his hometown or mine. To

>me it is the ultimate turn off.

 

I'm sorry if you don't want to hear about us being busy occupationally or socially. If you portray an heir of entitlement that we should be available on call for you 24/7 in your town or our own you're gonna hear we're busy simply as an excuse not to see your self important persona. Frankly, even those who NEED to work to make ends meat won't put up with bullshit like that.

 

Yes granted discussing a bulk of appointments is in bad taste but it is what it is. If we're not available we're busy and it's what we're going to tell you, if you can't be flexible there's not much else that can be done.

 

>Second--If an escort is visiting my hometown, I don't want to

>read that he is "booking up fast" or that I should book my

>session early. I don't want to hear about your airfare and

>hotel expenses either, OK?

 

Escorts will say that simply to remind people that they're not going to be on call 24/7 or have limited availability. I know I feel bad getting to a city and getting a bunch of inquiries at the last minute only to have to apologize and say that I'm ... busy. I'd much rather meet with clients off the review boards than a rentboy travel ad because those who check consumer reports tend to be better consumers; that's a simple economic fact.

 

>Third--I REALLY don't want to hear that an escort has booked a

>"for fun" appointment before he sees me. Why do I want to

>know that you are telling me about your decision to put your

>fun ahead of something that you are charging others for? What

>is professional about that?

 

I didn't say you would hear about it, I was merely asking a general respectful opinion . I simply bought up one situation and I certainly didn't call it an appointment since no money is exchanging hands there. As I said in the example, having sex before hand and not getting off only makes the next encounter that much more passionate.

 

>Also, if you are helping another escort to pick out the new

>sheets for his apartment, please make a separate post about

>being the first to fuck him in them.

 

Wow. Bitter or upset much? That was totally uncalled for. If you have a problem reading about that stuff on Escort message boards then maybe you should find a new online community. I had no idea hearing about escorts having fun or living their daily lives was so upsetting to you.

 

>Fourth--Another post was all about making the appointment, and

>an escort's concern that emailing back and forth to book a

>session is such a waste of time. If time is money, then pick

>up the phone and cut through the crap. A serious client will

>give you a phone number. Quit complaining. Invest in a

>telephone, if for some reason you don't already have one.

 

I was waiting to respond to your comment in that thread but sure, here it is. You ever been stalked or harassed? Had to have your number changed? Dealt with psychos who call at four in the morning because they think that's alright? How about calls every ten minutes because someone is so bored and pathetic they use escort's phone numbers to amuse themselves? Some have happened to me, others have happened to colleagues of mine.

 

Nobody was making as big of a deal over the time is money issue here as YOU are. I was merely commenting on the inane quality of the back and forth when something could be mentioned in the initial inquiry. Through the thread I've noticed other aspects of the situation but wow ... why don't you look at the entire situation before you go off attacking me for an observation.

 

Serious clients will give me a phone number? Wow you have been in this industry as an escort for a long time haven't you? Oh wait, no you haven't. Do you have any idea how many actors, politicians, industry and discreet individuals are very hesitant to give up their numbers. I can respect that as they respect me.

 

>Fifth--If you really are a professional, and want to compare

>your business to others who really are professional, stop the

>complaining. My doctor never mentions that I had to cancel my

>appointment. My attorney never complains. Stop acting like

>you are a 22 year old with a PhD in escorting. It doesn't

>exist.

 

You doctor has safeguards to his business that are incomparable to this industry. There are some parallels and other complete opposites. Don't think it's that simple. There's no PhD in a lot of things but people make academic careers out of them. My degree has been comprised a great deal from the sex work industry focusing generally as well as specifically in male escorting. It may not be a PhD but there is a lot of academia out there that might behoove you to get off your ass from in front of a computer and research before you make blazing accusations.

 

>Finally--I understand self-promotion, but discretion has to be

>part of that. I don't want to read about one escort's decision

>to post on here that he had a wild time with another guy AND

>ME that I hired with him. Some may be flattered, but if I am

>expecting discretion when I hire 2 guys, I want to be the one

>writing the review, not one of the guys who is sharing in my

>$$$$ for my experience.

 

I don’t know where to begin with that one except to say what kind of complex do you have. I have never read someone discussing their threeway with TommyGunnz. Perhaps the fact that an escort mentioned an experience they had with another escort and client was too indiscreet for you? Did they mention a wayward body part of yours? Did they mention your home? Did they discuss the client between them in detail?

 

If not, what the hell is your problem? It’s not self promotion if it’s the topic of conversation. This is a fucking escort message board. It deals with everything having to do with escorts. If you’re having trouble reading some of those things I suggest you check out Flyertalk. Plenty of escorts and clients there but none of the problems you’ve mentioned tonight will come up.

 

Best of luck finding what it is you’re ACTUALLY looking for.

[D.A.C.]

ROTFLMFAO......

 

Hey folks these people are not physicians,not attorneys....they are prostitutes,hookers,ho's.

 

Why do some continue to compare them to honorable professionals.

It takes a bit more than throwing your legs in the air to practice law and or medicine.

 

Nothing wrong with being a prostitute,i guess,i nor anyone i know would ever stoop to that level.but i imagine some people must do whatever they can to feed themselves,but lets recognize what they are...and what their place is.......

[+ purplekow]

>>. My doctor never mentions that I had to cancel my

>>appointment. My attorney never complains. Stop acting like

>>you are a 22 year old with a PhD in escorting. It doesn't

>>exist.

>

>You doctor has safeguards to his business that are

>incomparable to this industry. There are some parallels and

>other complete opposites. Don't think it's that simple.

 

Far be it, or farbeit if you are Rick Monroe, from me to get in the middle of what seems to be a personal dispute, but doctors, lawyers and other service industry people do complain about cancelled appointments, lack of payment and loads of other issues common to escorts. Any person dealing in a service has unique problems that pertain only to that service and then a series of other problems which are more or less universal to service industries. Overhead; uncompensated expenses; delayed, incomplete or total lack of payment; missed and late appointments are in the second category.

 

Most common complaint about doctors: late for appointments. Most common complain about patients by doctors: wanting more from an appointment than was scheduled. Common complain by doctors, reimbursement.

 

Lawyers, charge for a missed appointment and for phone calls and clients complain about that all the time. Biggest complaint by lawyers: delayed or incomplete payment from clients. Most lawyers ask for money up front. Many clients resent being asked for money up front.

 

While there are protections that are available to people in legal service industries which are not available to escorts, I would imagine that most people providing those services would give those protections for a mostly tax free income.

 

 

>I have never seen a purplekow;

I never hope to see one;

I can tell you anyhow;

I'd rather see than be one

 

Help there is a purplekow in my mirror

[SAdler]

I'm sorry ... did you have something that required half a brain to compose to say? Perhaps you too are in the wrong forums.

 

Judging by your demeanor you could be the hottest person on earth and I can't imagine a person pathetic or desperate enough to want to spend more than a few minutes in a room with you.

 

Wow I'm cranky tonight. LOL. Cranky but honest

[jawjateck]

>ROTFLMFAO......

>

>Hey folks these people are not physicians,not

>attorneys....they are prostitutes,hookers,ho's.

>

>Why do some continue to compare them to honorable

>professionals.

>It takes a bit more than throwing your legs in the air to

>practice law and or medicine.

>

>Nothing wrong with being a prostitute,i guess,i nor anyone i

>know would ever stoop to that level.but i imagine some people

>must do whatever they can to feed themselves,but lets

>recognize what they are...and what their place is.......

 

I agree with you that this is nothing more than tricking among gay men. It's not a noble profession, or a great service to advance society, etc. But your words ("nor anyone i know would ever stoop to that level.......what their place is") convey that escorts are quite beneath you. If you have ever hired an escort, you are right there with them, certainly not above them. If you have never hired, then I guess you are in a class to yourself for sure. If that be the case, I'd rather be in their class than yours. I have hired, many times, many wonderful men, and I do not consider myself to be in a higher "place" in this world. They may not be in the fields of medicine, law, politics/government (now there's some scum for you...YUCK!), or education, but most of the guys I have hired are great guys of which I am glad to have met, even if it was for an hour, evening, night, day, or week of hot sex for which I paid for their "time", and they provided with willing gladness. }(

[jawjateck]

I don't care what his schedule is or how often he packs his clients together. It doesn't matter how much or little he tells me about the details of his schedule. I know escorts see alot of clients, and that's OK with me, right before me, right after me, doesn't matter.

 

I just care about my time with him. If he lives up to his promises with me, and provides a satisfying experience during our time, I don't care what he does with the rest of his day, and a brief comment about how busy he is on that particular day would not offend me at all.

 

Now if he's tired, worn out, limp, lifeless, and can't sex it up with me. That's a problem.

[alanalt]

>I'm sorry ... did you have something that required half a

>brain to compose to say? Perhaps you too are in the wrong

>forums.

>

>Judging by your demeanor you could be the hottest person on

>earth and I can't imagine a person pathetic or desperate

>enough to want to spend more than a few minutes in a room with

>you.

>

>Wow I'm cranky tonight. LOL. Cranky but honest

 

I, for one, find you the highlight of the Board when you're cranky but honest...

[alanalt]

I think there's a distinction to be made. For example, I can understand where the original poster is coming from and I'd be especially pissed off if it was coming from an escort I was seeing on a regular/weekly basis. After all, I don't think it's asking too much for an escort to show appreciation for his regulars by being 'fresh' for them. So, yes, if I had an escort call and tell me that he's running late to a previously-booked appointment because of a previous client, there's a part of me that would say 'oh, does this mean I get a discount?' And depending on whether he'd used this line before, whether I was already getting a discount (and, honestly, how 'snippy' I was feeling), I might even say it out loud too... :o

 

But the only times, it's ever come up for me has been with a traveling escort who brought it up before we set a time. At least then I had the option of not booking a session, which is a form of honesty I appreciate.

 

Of course there are a gazillion different combinations of escorts and circumstances which makes the imposing of hard-and-fast rules just about impossible. But one of the reasons I do prefer longer appointments, is that 'if' an escort 'has' seen someone before me, it gives him a bit of chance to recover, as well as giving me a chance to go to my 'happy place' if I've just come off work, etc. All part of mutual enlightened self-interest...

 

But if there's one thing I've noticed about the 'good' escorts, it's they don't let these situations come up in the first place.

[SAdler]

>I, for one, find you the highlight of the Board when you're

>cranky but honest...

 

Hot diggity! I'll start depriving myself of coffee from now on

[JT Brooklyn]

IF the best a Working Guy can do for Conversation, is tell you how many guy's "he did" or is going "to do" , while getting Paid by YOU at the time, reminding you of the Downside to Hooking Up with him, STD'S NOT Withstanding, he isn't all that bright to begin with!

 

It does have to be a BIG BUZZ KILL! IMHO of course.

 

It's one thing to Hookup with a Guy, with alot of Reviews, showing just how "many times" he's been around the Block, but a Conversation

over it, very sad indeed!

 

But I do think "Traveler's", especially passing thru NYC are really impressed about how the Street's are Paved with Gold for them!

 

The Hunky One's really do tend to "Rack Up" the Appointments and of course $$$

:P :P

[rvwnsd]

Scott, the scene you described (where you fucked "guy 'A'" but didn't get off and then met "guy'B'") does sound pretty hot.

[AdamSmith]

Right -- it is what it is, as Scott says. Sure, there are plenty of ways for an escort to allude to these things without giving offense. But likewise can a client really expect complete suspension-of-disbelief scenario where the illusion is always perfectly maintained that he is the escort's one and only?

 

With one escort I came to know pretty closely, it was always fascinating and no kind of turnoff to hear how his day or his trip had been going before I got there. One of my best times with him was when I arrived very late evening for an overnight, was Trick #5 that day, and still got him to cum buckets.