INQUIRER1 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I've texted various providers who seem nice on their Rent men pages, but when I text them they seem very curt and almost annoyed. I also try to be very polite and respectful of their time (not having endless conversations). Enchanted, superben, Danny-Darko and 1 other 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ José Soplanucas Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 How old are you? Could this be a generational gap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattlebottom Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Think about the number of texts they're getting and the knowledge that maybe one or two will result in an actual appointment. To me it's the same as calling a business and being asked to hold while they assist someone else. + José Soplanucas, superben, jojolaca and 2 others 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ José Soplanucas Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 minute ago, seattlebottom said: Think about the number of texts they're getting and the knowledge that maybe one or two will result in an actual appointment. To me it's the same as calling a business and being asked to hold while they assist someone else. Absolutely. And also think that texting has evolved into an etiquette where laconism and straight to the point are highly appreciated. superben 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbar123 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Some people text with an attitude. Don’t take it personally. Everyone’s busy these days superben and + glennnnn 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Personally I don't understand why so many providers insist on conversation being moved immediately from website messaging to text. Seems that it would be less annoying to have the basic questions worked out on the site messenger before you end up with dozens of losers texting with you in your phone and asking for close-ups of your dick or asshole. jonnychgo, + KensingtonHomo, + Axiom2001 and 7 others 3 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcbbvers Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Have to say the curt responses are a huge turn off and will almost always make me check out other providers. For $300 I sort of expect responses that are more than one word. Its fine when texting friends but not when someone is looking to drop some nice money on time with you. FreeRhythm, coriolis888, Walt and 11 others 4 1 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftbench23 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Even more annoying when you provide all of your info, stats, and availability in the initial text that they barely read! superben, coriolis888 and dcbbvers 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 9 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Personally I don't understand why so many providers insist on conversation being moved immediately from website messaging to text. Seems that it would be less annoying to have the basic questions worked out on the site messenger before you end up with dozens of losers texting with you in your phone and asking for close-ups of your dick or asshole. Most of the basic questions that get asked are already answered in the advert or website. It gets quite tiring to answer the same questions by text. I get “hi what’s your rate?”….”when are you available?”. I get a lot of messages like that. So sometimes the answer “please see my website” might seem curt, but it’s really just to avoid lengthy exchanges by text. Also, if the first question is “what’s your rate” the likelihood is it’s too expensive for him. You learn to avoid wasting too much time on that kind of thing. + Axiom2001, + Pensant, Storm4U and 5 others 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancealot Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Odd to me that most of the answers here “defend” not being the things one would associate with “selling” which is what the providers should be doing if they want customers Something is off i tend to agree with the poster and it can be a turn off as it’s the first impression from someone you think you’d like to meet coriolis888, jusmeinbr, Todd Jenkins and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strip4me Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I find text etiquette to be different. Short replies are good. That’s not to excuse rudeness. I also think it’s more difficult to read tone and meaning via text. I’ve found most providers perfectly pleasant by text. Marc in Calif and + Pensant 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnemgreeves Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 could be a defence mechanism against time wasters. The Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Coolwave35 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I mean no shade with this post. I think in any business, the salesman learns to weed out the tire kickers and time wasters, and lose patience when their radar blips. I’d be curious to know the ratio of how many providers the OP reaches out to “inquire” versus how many providers he actually hires and has a session with. Some of us on the boards have different experiences with setting up a session. Over the years I’ve surmised that those of us that close the deal 90% of the time have a different experience than those that hit up, audition, engage and evaluate dozens and dozens and various escorts before deciding on a hire. When I’m looking to hire, I go in on the one escort tickling my fancy and he has to do or say something incredibly outrageous to lose my business. That’s just me. Dr.Daddy, NJF, peter831 and 5 others 3 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasingGirth Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I think since a text is emotionless per se unless you use smileys some responses can appear very dry. But In fact it could only be our own interpretation. I like a guy that will engage me after I ask a basic question such as rate and availability. if the guy respond to me and immediately asks me what I am into and what turns me on, then it’s a good sign. I want someone interested on what I’m looking for. And I agree with others, communication for me is better to track on the website. I feel like that guys that I engage on the website are more responsive rather than via text. coriolis888 and superben 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ glutes Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) It is hard to get tone in text, buuuuuutt: I have seen provider Grecos several times, and in my last text to arrange a meeting I asked if it was OK to call him. His response, "I am not here to make friends. This is a job." How about just being friendly? That all said, I know he has recently been "released" by his famous song writer and performer / sugar daddy, he may be very angry. Now living in the Hollywood flats. Edited January 28, 2023 by glutes Medin, pubic_assistance, strip4me and 4 others 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beancounter Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I see my regular guy once a month. This guy is extremely popular, well-thought of and very much in demand. We actually discussed this very topic after one of our sessions. He whipped out his phone and told me that he received 50-plus text messages in the 2 hours we were together. He also indicated this was the norm and that while texts slowed down during overnight hours he’d still wake up to a ton of messages. I guess the point I’m trying to impart on Forum members is that it may not be humanly possible to rely to all texts with a lengthy text exchange. These guys have a life outside of escorting, too. They have their daily routines as we all do. Put yourself in their shoes and how would you react to hundreds of emails on a daily basis? As an aside…..I learned a long time ago that the paltry $300 I fork over for a session is peanuts to the more popular providers. He may be the center of my universe but I can guarantee you I’m not the center of his. I’m a financial transaction, nothing more. MscleLovr, peter831, superben and 7 others 6 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Chancealot said: Odd to me that most of the answers here “defend” not being the things one would associate with “selling” which is what the providers should be doing if they want customers Something is off i tend to agree with the poster and it can be a turn off as it’s the first impression from someone you think you’d like to meet No excuse for being rude, but not engaging fully with some enquiries is a way of weeding out the time wasters, window shoppers and those who expect a ‘deal’. superben and + robear 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Virginian Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) Time management and weeding the window shoppers may well be driving some of the brevity, entirely possible. IMO there are some generational aspects. Gen X writes texts like emails, full sentences with punctuation. Get Z is syllables, abbreviations, no punctuation. I've heard Gen Z'ers say that a period on the end of a text stresses them out, they think the texter is upset with them. It's like their version of TYPING IN ALL CAPS (which grandma and grandpa do without even noticing...). Gen X gets the shudders at the mere suggestion that they not. put. a. period. on. a. sentence. Edited January 28, 2023 by Scott Virginian spelling liubit, + José Soplanucas and + Pensant 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Jamie21 said: Most of the basic questions that get asked are already answered in the advert or website. It gets quite tiring to answer the same questions by text. I get “hi what’s your rate?”….”when are you available?”. I get a lot of messages like that. So sometimes the answer “please see my website” might seem curt, but it’s really just to avoid lengthy exchanges by text. Also, if the first question is “what’s your rate” the likelihood is it’s too expensive for him. You learn to avoid wasting too much time on that kind of thing. This will only work if the provider is providing accurate information on their ad. My first question is always “Are you in (my city)?” Some providers are not actually in the cities their ad shows. Even with dates shown, many times they are not the actual dates they are visiting. Rentmen does not show the rates so they have to be asked for. As for “I Am Into,” many providers check all the boxes so it has to be verified what they are really into. pubic_assistance, superben and + KensingtonHomo 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Coolwave35 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Beancounter said: he received 50-plus text messages in the 2 hours we were together. He also indicated this was the norm and that while texts slowed down during overnight hours he’d still wake up to a ton of messages. Early in my hiring career I spent a week with a provider in Orlando. As part of our negotiations, he asked for a few hours a day to manage his business leads. I thought it unreasonable so I pushed back. He explained that if he went dark for 7 days he’d lose more income than he was making. I disagreed but understood and relented. The first three days were eye opening about the number of inquiries he received and how time consuming the management was. Day 4 and 5 he ignored the phone and took a break from it and confessed to feeling burnt out there and wanting to stay present with me. On day 6 when he checked back in, he jokingly said “you know me by now, why don’t you answer these.” and laughed. I said ooooooo can I? And he let me. I loved it. We snuggled up together in bed and I’d craft these riveting responses and bait the hook while he reviewed before I hit send. It was thrilling to confirm appointments with him and I imagined him in all the scenarios he had agreed to with other clients. It was one of the most fun times I have had with a provider. He complained that the level of kindness and attention I was replying with was unsustainable, and I’d be burned out after a week of answering with such care. I lasted two days. On day 7 as we waited in the airport he gave me another shot. It was exhausting and lost its magic. There is a lot of energy coming at hot guys all the time. liubit, Scott Virginian, PiSquared and 4 others 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Coolwave35 said: Early in my hiring career I spent a week with a provider in Orlando. As part of our negotiations, he asked for a few hours a day to manage his business leads. I thought it unreasonable so I pushed back. He explained that if he went dark for 7 days he’d lose more income than he was making. I disagreed but understood and relented. The first three days were eye opening about the number of inquiries he received and how time consuming the management was. Day 4 and 5 he ignored the phone and took a break from it and confessed to feeling burnt out there and wanting to stay present with me. On day 6 when he checked back in, he jokingly said “you know me by now, why don’t you answer these.” and laughed. I said ooooooo can I? And he let me. I loved it. We snuggled up together in bed and I’d craft these riveting responses and bait the hook while he reviewed before I hit send. It was thrilling to confirm appointments with him and I imagined him in all the scenarios he had agreed to with other clients. It was one of the most fun times I have had with a provider. He complained that the level of kindness and attention I was replying with was unsustainable, and I’d be burned out after a week of answering with such care. I lasted two days. On day 7 as we waited in the airport he gave me another shot. It was exhausting and lost its magic. There is a lot of energy coming at hot guys all the time. He must have been in high demand! When demand exceeds supply, you put the price up. pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Jamie21 said: Most of the basic questions that get asked are already answered in the advert or website Well...that isn't always true. "Ask me" is quite a common component of the rates section. So I am forced to ask . The second most common need to ask is availability to host ( where and when ). So I don't need to text you if you're too expensive or hosting somewhere inconvenient or working hours that are inconvenient..but that's not always apparent in the ad. So a quick response in messenger keeps me off your text threads on your phone. Edited January 28, 2023 by pubic_assistance dropped sentences + KensingtonHomo, chiguyedge, superben and 2 others 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 3 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Well...that isn't always true. "Ask me" is quite a common component of the rates section. So I am forced to ask . The second most common need to ask is availability to host ( where and when ). So I don't need to text you if you're too expensive or hosting somewhere inconvenient or working hours that are inconvenient..but that's not always apparent in the ad. So a quick response in messenger keeps me off your text threads on your phone. Yeah I guess in some places guys have to be a bit discreet in their ads, for legal reasons. Must be really annoying. pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coriolis888 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 9 hours ago, arnemgreeves said: could be a defense mechanism against time wasters. The Yes, the imaginary "time waster" label gets used again. A product is being sold (escort services). If more than a few questions are asked by the client concerning details of the potential encounter, the client is labeled a time waster. Too often, something is out of sync. + glutes, Todd Jenkins and superben 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ glutes Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 If you don't ask a couple of germane questions of a $300+/hour provider, you aren't doing due diligence. MikeBiDude, BabyBoomer, GTMike and 9 others 3 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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