Cliff Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, big-n-tall said: I've met many a pornstar/actor over the years and I've never been quoted $500 per hour ($350 has been the most, $200 the least). The most per hour I've been quoted was $400 from a non-porn actor. I did not see that guy. A lot of people assume just because someone is a popular porn actor they'll immediately ask a lot more. Yes there are those that charge super high value (Cade Maddox comes to mind), but $500 and above has not been the norm, in my experience anyway. Everything big-and-tall says has been my experience, as well. All the porn stars I’ve ever seen (Rafael, Dolf Dietrich, Mike Gaite, and many more) have been either $300 or $350. I’ve never paid $500. I’ve paid $400 to only 3 escorts, all non-porn guys, but only one of them (“TopRated Canada) was “worth it” in my opinion. My two cents. Cheers, gentlemen. Edited December 17, 2022 by Cliff kyleham, ChasingGirth and TorontoDrew 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Hagen Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Reasonable or not, Massage $300 is not uncommon in high end spas today (I'm thinking Aman, Peninsula, etc.). And generally those are not performed by a nude god. Cliff and pubic_assistance 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutherland Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 12 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Isn't that bit of information a little "stalker-ish" ? 🤔 I don't think so. I assume many posters on this site live in NYC and might also be members of the same gym. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, sutherland said: I don't think so. I assume many posters on this site live in NYC and might also be members of the same gym. Which makes it even worse to disclose his private information like that. Celebrities deserve as much privacy as they can get. Edited December 17, 2022 by pubic_assistance Walt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv2play Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) I agree that private information about an escort should not be revealed here. I always try to filter myself before posting if I am talking about a provider and my interactions with him. What we do together in a provider-client context is fine to comment on. What we may do outside that activity is subject to discretion. If I saw one walking down the street and commented on it that would be ok. If I saw him at his private gym, then no. He deserves his privacy. Edited December 17, 2022 by Luv2play pubic_assistance and + Axiom2001 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasingGirth Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 16 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Isn't that bit of information a little "stalker-ish" ? 🤔 Not really, this is one of the gyms I go to when I need to work out late, this is a 24/24 gym. To be honest with you everybody is super chill and talks to everyone, at least at the gyms I go to. Rafael is very friendly and a nice guy. + Italiano 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasingGirth Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 3 hours ago, sutherland said: I don't think so. I assume many posters on this site live in NYC and might also be members of the same gym. Exactly and if you go to Eagle on a Friday or Saturday night you’ll see a bunch of escorts. These guys are normal guys and are super nice. Rod Hagen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ The Big Guy Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Italiano said: I just saw that he charges now $300 for a massage.....😮 I can't recall exactly, but about 4/5 years ago I paid 140 or 150 for a VERY sensual/erotic massage..... 5 years ago he was quoting me $160 for a massage but I think I paid $300😉 Rod Hagen and tennisjock 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poincare Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 I met with Raphael for full weekends years ago. About 10-12 times. He was amazing as described above. Sweet, cute, funny, cuddly, flattering….and as a power top, he is one of the best. One time, it cause incontinence for a few hours, until my sphincter return to its normal tone. His apartment is so interesting too…..he loves to give you a tour of it and tell you the stories of how we collecting things…. HoseMaster, + Italiano, ChasingGirth and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, Poincare said: I met with Raphael for full weekends years ago. About 10-12 times. He was amazing as described above. Sweet, cute, funny, cuddly, flattering….and as a power top, he is one of the best. One time, it cause incontinence for a few hours, until my sphincter return to its normal tone. His apartment is so interesting too…..he loves to give you a tour of it and tell you the stories of how we collecting things…. Yes! I remember him giving me a tour of his place and explaining the fishtank and pulling out books he loved including one about seashells, I think. He showered with me and fed me dark chocolate. He’s as charming and engaging as anyone can possibly be. Just thinking about this makes me want to pick up the phone and call him again instead of dealing with all those Gen Z amateurs. Ha ha + Italiano, Rod Hagen, ChasingGirth and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BOZO T CLOWN Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 His ad in Rentmen lists his age at 38. But his own website indicates his date of birth as July 18, 1978 http://www.rafaelworld.com/page1.html That would make him 44 years old. I know a few escorts that lie about their age by 2 or 3 years. Seems like 6 years a lot. Or is that the norm? Bozo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutherland Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 21 minutes ago, BOZO T CLOWN said: I know a few escorts that lie about their age by 2 or 3 years. Seems like 6 years a lot. Or is that the norm? That topic has been discussed here and 6 years, or more, is common. From what I see the worst offender is Brendon Cage whose rentmen ad gives 38 as his age. He is really 53 (and a grandfather) Luv2play, kyleham and ChasingGirth 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasingGirth Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 59 minutes ago, BOZO T CLOWN said: His ad in Rentmen lists his age at 38. But his own website indicates his date of birth as July 18, 1978 http://www.rafaelworld.com/page1.html That would make him 44 years old. I know a few escorts that lie about their age by 2 or 3 years. Seems like 6 years a lot. Or is that the norm? Bozo To me age is a number, Rafael looks fantastic and is, as mentioned before adorable and super nice. Rentmen doesn’t update age automatically. As long as the photos are updated and I like what I see, I personally don’t care about age. + Italiano, Cliff, Luv2play and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maninsoma Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 There's a guy advertising in my area who has claimed to be in his late thirties for over two decades. ChasingGirth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 1 hour ago, BOZO T CLOWN said: I know a few escorts that lie about their age by 2 or 3 years. Seems like 6 years a lot. Or is that the norm? I think that's all about what you can pull off. Everyone ages differently. I remember when I turned 30 my mother said "Well I guess now that YOU are 30, I have to stop telling people that I am 30 😆" ChasingGirth, ketut, Walt and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudynate Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) Lying about one's age seems to be common in the hookup world too. I have a FB whose profile says he is 55, and I found out recently that he is 60. I'm told that 60 is sort of a glass ceiling. It doesn't matter how hot you are or how young you look, 60 is a deal-killer. So there all these men on hook up sites who give their age as 55 or so, who are actually 60 - 60+. I'm a young 70, but I can't imagine trying to pass for 55. Edited December 18, 2022 by Rudynate pubic_assistance and ChasingGirth 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/15/2022 at 6:49 PM, Axiom2001 said: I, too, have always wanted his company but failed to contact him when he was in San Francisco performing at the now defunct Nob Hill Theatre. But, today, I took out a JFF and OF accounts. ...can't remember which one he's on, but in almost all of his short, short vids, he rarely kisses deeply and wants to be "serviced" then fucking one into oblivion. I, personally, like interactivity, but that's me. I am not writing this to discourage you, but what I did write might give you second and third thoughts. My Review is Number 4. There was SO much kissing, deep kissing. I'm sorry to hear that may have changed: https://web.archive.org/web/20060515211722/http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/rafael_alencar_nyc.html musclestuduws 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Axiom2001 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/15/2022 at 6:49 PM, Axiom2001 said: I, too, have always wanted his company but failed to contact him when he was in San Francisco performing at the now defunct Nob Hill Theatre. But, today, I took out a JFF and OF accounts. ...can't remember which one he's on, but in almost all of his short, short vids, he rarely kisses deeply and wants to be "serviced" then fucking one into oblivion. I, personally, like interactivity, but that's me. I am not writing this to discourage you, but what I did write might give you second and third thoughts. I might have responded here too quickly on the 15th, for a day or so later, Rafael's most recent. vid at JFF was one of the hottest that he's posted. His partner was young and relatively hot and received a lot of kisses from Rafael and took "that blessing" like a champ-- all of it and then some. I enjoyed the vid so much that I sent a tip. So I think from what you wrote and from what I recently viewed, kissing on the part of Rafael depends on the partner with whom he's playing. Thumper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Italiano Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 14 hours ago, Thumper said: My Review is Number 4. There was SO much kissing, deep kissing. I'm sorry to hear that may have changed: https://web.archive.org/web/20060515211722/http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/rafael_alencar_nyc.html Wow that's some hot review! 2005? I didn't know Rafael would bottom. Thumper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_musc Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Yes, kudos to Thumper - the review got my juices contemplating a comeback! Thanks. + Italiano and Rod Hagen 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Axiom2001 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 On 12/17/2022 at 9:48 AM, Luv2play said: He deserves his privacy. I strongly agree, and perhaps that component can be put somewhere in the guidelines of this forum. Luv2play and Rod Hagen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasingGirth Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Axiom2001 said: I strongly agree, and perhaps that component can be put somewhere in the guidelines of this forum. I live in nyc, Rafael goes to a gym in Hells Kitchen where the vast majority of members are gay. Everybody, that has watched gay porn at one point has an idea of who he is. If you guys want me to make a situation weird it’ll be weird, trust me. Escorts and public figures are social people, and 99% of people respect public individuals when they see them. Me included. Do I consider Rafael to be a celebrity as other mentioned? Not really as mainstream people have NO clue who he is. When he goes to a gym located in a gay area he knows exactly what he is doing. More so when he goes to a gym that cost $10 a month. If he had had bad experiences with people recognizing him or coming up to him trust me he would have switched to a more exclusive gym than Planet Fitness. Ask yourself why when you meet a great escort you have an amazing time. It’s because they love to interact and meet people. Rafael is very down to earth, he will smile to you when he sees you at the gym. This is why I gave that piece of information to the OP, even if I know that the chance that the OP will actually go to PF to talk to Rafael is close to 0. Let’s be realistic here. Did I post his home address? No, is it well known where Rafael works out? in NYC, if you are part in some ways of the gay scene, yes, and no one cares. Rafael goes to gay bars to have fun too, as many other escorts, does he get harrased? No, because 99% of people are respectful and chill. If you go to LA you can take a bus tour on where celebrities live, now that’s in my opinion an invasion of privacy. Medin, + Italiano, search0925 and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 On 12/17/2022 at 10:56 AM, Italiano said: Not in my world, and not even $300 I'm in NYC. I browse Rent men from time to time and every time I come across a profile of some handsome stud who claims to be a *porn star" the asking rate is $500. But I am aware we function in a different economy here...so those prices maybe adjusted when traveling middle America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasingGirth Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 37 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said: I'm in NYC. I browse Rent men from time to time and every time I come across a profile of some handsome stud who claims to be a *porn star" the asking rate is $500. But I am aware we function in a different economy here...so those prices maybe adjusted when traveling middle America I have talked to guys that are not porn stars and they charge 500, and most charge 400 now, which I find a lot. pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Italiano Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 6 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: I'm in NYC. I browse Rent men from time to time and every time I come across a profile of some handsome stud who claims to be a *porn star" the asking rate is $500. But I am aware we function in a different economy here...so those prices maybe adjusted when traveling middle America That's why I wrote "in my world". Of course everyone is entitled to ask or pay whatever they feel and/or can. I personally would not spend $300 for a sensual massage or $500 for an escort, even if he's a famous porn star. In the past I hired Arpad Miklos, Adam Champ, Aron Ridge, Rafael Alencar for a massage, Ray Diesel, and a couple of other known porn stars whose names I forgot. They charged either standard or slightly higher fees. News: times have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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