Escorts & Porn

[Guest ncm2169]

I'm just curious. Why do some escorts avoid doing porn (even if offered)? What are the future ramifications? The trade-offs? The benefits?

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Trade

 

Some adult film actors derive more income from other activities, but it is the adult film itself and its availability that makes them a known and popular quantity. This additional income can come from personal appearances, web site memberships, dancing, etc. In the case of some escorts, they have done adult films in order to promote their escorting and to increase the rate they could request from clients.

 

As for other benefits, those can be as unique as the individuals who do the films and could range from exhibitionism to self-esteem.

 

In my own personal case, when the opportunity was offered to me in San Francisco in the mid 1990s, I decided any possible benefits far outweighed what I viewed as potential drawbacks in the matter, including a lack of residuals, a lack of control of my own image, among others. Again, I believe the reasons why some people would not consider adult film can be exceedingly various, and would include the number of reasons why some escorts, such as popular ones on this site, do not show their face in their photographic images.

[theDCeBOY]

i don't want to give the impression that all the porn producers are stuck on me like paparazzi on a european royal, because they aren't, but, one reason i wouldn't do porn is lack of controul of my own image. as it is, i decide what images of me are put out. once they're out, i understand i don't controul them any longer, but at least this way i have total say on what does in fact go out.

also, no one knows where my life may be in 5, 10, or 20 years. "film work" is permanent. i'm not ashamed of the things i do, but why should i INVITE future hassle? i don't judge people who make their lives and careers in the sex industry, but my own aspirations don't follow that path forever.

 

did i help, or did i obfuscate?

[Guest ncm2169]

< did i help, or did i obfuscate? >

 

Well, you alluded to something I'd like to know more about. What are some of the realistic future negative consequences of doing porn? I'm thinking things like employment problems, blackmail, or worse?

[BuckyXTC]

>What are some of the realistic future negative consequences of

>doing porn? I'm thinking things like employment problems,

>blackmail, or worse?

 

Seems to me that escorting, porn acting, or even hiring escorts has a significant potential to limit some career possibilities. One case in point would be for anyone with political aspirations. In an age where anything and everything becomes fair game when you throw your hat into the political arena, I would surmise that the risk factor is pretty large for being "outed" if one has participated in such activities. With yellow press organs like the National Enquirer and others, I'm sure knowledge of the fact that they pay handsomely for "dirt" on political aspirants might entice someone to blow the whistle.

[+ deej]

>What are some of the realistic future negative consequences of

>doing porn? I'm thinking things like employment problems,

>blackmail, or worse?

 

As for future careers, politics is out. Depending on the community, education is out. Anything that may EVER come to national, state, or community prominence is out.

 

A very good friend of mine is in the final phases of his PHD in clinical psychology. He was recently released from a practicum because someone fingered him as having done porn. Ironically, the practicum was at a GAY HEALTH SERVICES CENTER. <sigh> The center emphasizes freedom to express sexuality. But he was released because he'd done so.

 

A lot depends on community and circumstance. Porn star Steve Kennedy crossed over into "legit" acting as Jeff Griggs, only to later get fired from General Hospital when his porn past was revealed. (Hey, I did put "legit" in quotes. }( )

 

And then there's the governor-elect of California. Rumors abound but have been sufficiently quashed.

 

As usual, it depends. ;-)

[theDCeBOY]

don't most state bar associations still have morals clauses? that would probably be the greatest impediment for me, professionally.

but, i also don't want to deal with being 60 years old & having friends decide it is funny to drag out the old film of me in a most indelicate state.

in the near term, i don't want that kind of recogniseability.

[Guest ncm2169]

Somewhere I recall reading about pornstars being stalked -- and worse. Any comments?

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Simply put...

 

Let's not forget the career (or lack thereof) of Simon Rex, former MTV-VeeJay and current star of Scary Movie 3. To pay his rent in the early '90s, Rex did a solo j/o scene with Brad Posey's vids and it's haunted him ever since. He had a real shot at stardom with his a reoccuring role on a prominent sitcom, but the producers found out about his 'modeling' days and it all went downhill from there.

 

While he may not be a lawyer, doctor or Head of State, his 'porn' career has hampered his ability to be taken seriously in Hollywood.

 

In any aspect of the adult/sex industry, a person really needs to think about possible future ramifications & where they see themselves in 10-20 years. The niche noteriaty may be a huge ego boost now, but years down the line they might not want that kind of attention...

 

 

Warmest,

 

 

 

Benjamin Nicholas

[Guest DevonSFescort]

>In any aspect of the adult/sex industry, a person really needs

>to think about possible future ramifications & where they see

>themselves in 10-20 years.

 

Exactly. EXACTLY. You not only have to picture what kind of future YOU want in 10-20 years, you have to picture what kind of reception the world will be giving people with pornographic pasts in 10-20 years.

 

My own gamble, clearly, is that the world, or at least the part of it that I'll be occupying in 10-20 years, won't be giving much of a flying fuck about whether I did porn or not, and to the extent that they do, they'll think it's cool. And given that I was already a pretty public hooker who wrote a daily column on the Internet about it, etc., the people who thought I maintained some time of "purity" or whatever by NOT doing porn will, I'm hoping and guessing, be outnumbered by the people who thought I may as well have gone ahead and done it, and who respect me for having the nuts to have done something they only thought about doing. I'm also hoping and guessing that enough of a critical mass of people in San Francisco, at least, will be in a place where they're willing to admit that they buy porn and either hire hookers or would if they could afford it that it just won't be an issue. I don't think it WOULD be an issue anywhere I'd want to work, and I recognize and accept that this is a self-imposed limitation. (There are a lot of fantastic people in a lot of fantastic workplaces that I might be cutting myself off from my being truthful about what will then be my past. That they harbor what is, after all, a common prejudice does not make them bad people not worth knowing. But life is, after all, only so long.) Somehow I can't help myself, and it was the same way when I came out in high school in Texas (mumble mumble) years ago: even though at the time I couldn't picture ever making it out of Texas, I just instinctively resolved that I would only work in places where I could be myself. Turned out I was the only openly gay guy at my particular Pizza Hut franchise in suburban Houston; they liked me and didn't fire me, and so I didn't have to test my theory (and never have. I've never been out of work more than a calendar week at a time, and I've never had to hide being gay). Similarly, I know, or at least trust, in my gut that however many years later in San Franfuckingcisco it won't be that big an issue having been a hooker/porno person; if anything a "sordid" past can be an asset to an artist-type's biography.

 

All of which is a long-winded way of saying that "Lord and Master," an All Worlds video starring Michael Brandon and introducing, well, me, is due out later this year. (Please remember to buy, not Napsterize, your copy. I'm no Abbie Ho-mann.) I guess it's a little late to worry about regrets. :7

[+ deej]

>All of which is a long-winded way of saying that "Lord and

>Master," an All Worlds video starring Michael Brandon and

>introducing, well, me, is due out later this year. (Please

>remember to buy, not Napsterize, your copy. I'm no Abbie

>Ho-mann.) I guess it's a little late to worry about regrets.

>:7

 

Cool. Can't wait to get my review copy ...

 

Errr ... didn't I review you before? :+

[Steven_Draker]

About politics and escorting: have you ever heard about this current politician in Holland who has been male escort in his twenties. Don't tell me that the Dutch have conservative minds. ;-)

Just my two cents.

 

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[Guest DevonSFescort]

>Errr ... didn't I review you before? :+

 

Yes, but that was for one of my private, interactive performance pieces (complete with home delivery of a painting!)...why, does that mean you'll have to recuse yourself?

[+ deej]

>(complete with home delivery of a

>painting!)...why, does that mean you'll have to recuse

>yourself?

 

Not on your life. ;-)

 

I'm just surprised it's All Worlds and not Raging Stallion or Monster Bang.

[Rick Munroe]

My porn debut

 

After much dicussion and negotiation, I've agreed to star in a porn flick, which is actually semi-autobiographical. It'll be out by Christmas and it's entitled: "Valley of the Dolls That I Bought on Ebay."

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Changes

 

In the recent Rock The Vote debate, Howard Dean, John Edwards and John Kerry all replied affirmatively when asked whether they had ever used marijuana; none felt it necessary to qualify that statement by stating they had "not inhaled."

 

Marijuana use was sufficient to keep Judge Ginsberg off the Supreme Court some fifteen years ago but in that time, public opinion has become more accepting.

 

As another example, while there are some electorial offices to which being a gay man or woman might prove an impediment, this has also changed in the last two decades.

 

So it is possible that in the future, adult film work will not be a bar to many career paths. But any potential bar is not the only reason to turn down the opportunity to do this work:

 

The pay, even for the studios such as Falcon who pay very well, is not very high relative to the income stream and income potential for the film or videotape produced.

 

Involvement in adult film (as with other sex work) is looked down upon even by gay people, and while it might be possible to downplay other sex work, print or video/film modeling is simply unavoidable to fail to disclose.

 

These are but two very real drawbacks to this work, but there are other simple ones: some people may be able to perform with strangers in one on one situations, but would not be able to perform with strangers in front of many other strangers. This is one reason why any number of individuals consent to solo nude print modeling and photography, as well as even solo jerk off scenes, but do not engage in interactive print or film/video modeling.

 

There are any number of other equally valid and equally valid personal reasons. Just sit down and think for yourself whether you might engage in this line of work and why or why not.

[guyinsf]

RE: My porn debut

 

ROTFLMAO. Thanks for brightening up my morning.

 

>After much dicussion and negotiation, I've agreed to star in

>a porn flick, which is actually semi-autobiographical. It'll

>be out by Christmas and it's entitled: "Valley of the Dolls

>That I Bought on Ebay."

[guyinsf]

RE: My porn debut

 

ROTFLMAO. Thanks for brightening up my morning.

 

>After much dicussion and negotiation, I've agreed to star in

>a porn flick, which is actually semi-autobiographical. It'll

>be out by Christmas and it's entitled: "Valley of the Dolls

>That I Bought on Ebay."

[pierrot]

I learned a few weeks ago that a new employee at my workplace is a former porn star. The place has been abuzz about it for weeks, with much snickering and excitement. I've wondered whether management knows. Of course people will get used to it, but I suspect it will be water cooler talk for a long time. I do feel sorry for the person and hope it won't affect their career. But it must be tough.

 

A comment on elected officials: didn't the new governor of California once appear in a nude scene years ago? Not exactly porn, but given the times, it was pretty close. Seems I saw a published still long ago. (It wasn't impressive).

[AdamSmith]

>A comment on elected officials: didn't the new governor of

>California once appear in a nude scene years ago? Not exactly

>porn, but given the times, it was pretty close. Seems I saw a

>published still long ago. (It wasn't impressive).

 

Yes. Here's one posting of it, among many:

 

http://www.slumdance.com/blogs/brian_flemming/archives/000299.html