No Show Appointment Breakers...

[Ethan_NYC]

Had a call from someone claiming to be in town on business. Cell phone number displayed unfamiliar area code. Chatted briefly and set up appointment at stellar NYC hotel he is allegedly a guest of for the evening. (Ironically the same hotel I lost my virginity in).

 

Asked I come unshowered, to honor his request I hit the gym for a quick sweat.

Before heading into NY for appt, (toll involved) I call him just to alert him about traffic. No answer. Voicemail-box full so I can't leave him a message, but able to text him so I request him to call me back ASAP. At this point, sittin in my car having doubts...something tells me he's a flake. A fact confirmed when he never calls back.

 

What would the already established escorts have done in this case?

 

Here's what I did...slightly annoyed at almost paying the toll only to be "stood up", I U-turn, rented a DVD w/ the toll I had prepared and had a quiet night.

 

Are NO SHOW CLIENTS a common hazard?

[giovoni]

No shows happen. I would say that they happen pretty regularly. After doing massage for about 7 years and escorting for a little more then 1, I've come to accept them. The first thing I did about them was move my massage table to my home so that when I did have someone no show to an incall I would not have wasted an hour of traveling.

 

Some people you may find habitually no show. I believe I've mentioned before that I won't schedule time ahead for people who no show on me 3 times. When this happens now I'm saying that it seems like their schedule makes it difficult for them to schedule me ahead and to call me right when they want an appointment and see if I can accommodate them.

 

I'm much more weary of scheduling repeat outcalls with people who are not at their home or hotel room when I show up and who fail to call, leave a note, leave an email or otherwise give me an explanation. Just as it's inexcusable for an escort to no show with no explanation I can't imagine how in today's world a quick phone call, note, email or some other communication is not forthcoming from a client. I know things happen in people's lives, especially when traveling on business or vacations and I don't mind broken appointments as long as I get a call or email.

 

I've had situations, though, when it's obvious I'm just being fucked with. The wrong hotel room will be given.. or a hotel room on a floor which doesn't exist an address within a block of a street which is vacationed in that particular block. Once TJ was called and when he got to the hotel to call the client, who was staying on a floor which the elevator wouldn't go to without the room key, claimed TJ had the wrong number. In those cases you just need to save their phone number and if your phone has caller ID put them within a category which makes it clear you don't want to get taken in by them again.

 

 

Gio in Denver

http://www.angelfire.com/co3/massagebygio

[nate_sf]

Unfortunately no-shows happen fairly regularly. The times I've dropped out of escorting have had a lot to do with getting too many no-shows and deciding there were better ways to be spending the wasted time.

 

But fortunately no-shows, while they are not unusual, are still outweighed by most appointments being successful and enjoyable. In my experience travellers from out of town have a higher probability of cancelling or no-shows, and to give them the benefit of the doubt, if they're in town on business they can be subject to very unpredictable schedules. If their company is paying the tab on the trip, their first priority has to be their work, so an escort appointment can end up falling through the cracks.

 

It's hard to know what precautions to take to avoid no-shows since it's hard to know which appointments will be the ones that don't pan out. Confirming a couple of times through phone calls or e-mail seems to help a lot, though, particularly when an appointment has been made far in advance or the client is coming from out of town. If you don't get a response or something looks fishy, that would be the time to turn around and go home, or go somewhere you'll enjoy hanging out, knowing the appointment might not happen. Fortunately I've never been set up with bogus addresses or numbers, but I wouldn't reschedule with someone who cancelled or was a no-show without some kind of explanation.

[Flower]

For hotel calls, why not just call back to the hotel asking the front desk for the room number or the client, if they require a name. While not fool-proof, I bet it would certainly cut down on the crank calls. For a while a few years back every escort seemed to do that--now it hardly ever happens to me--what changed?

[giovoni]

I actually just forgot to mention that as a strategy but I do that as well. Thanks for bringing it up as that does eliminate a couple of frauds per year between TJ and I combined. It didn't help TJ with the client I mentioned as he answered the phone and confirmed the appt up until the time TJ was in the lobby, but it's still a nice tool to use.

 

Gio in Denver

http://www.angelfire.com/co3/massagebygio

[JamesK840]

Granted, I don't travel or make appointments for escorts to come to me at a hotel all that much, but this may not work so well... I don't give escorts my real name, for discretion, but also (for the same reason most escorts make up a name) so that I know what the call is about as soon as they ask for that name and don't get into a conversation I don't want somebody to overhear. It's also great if somebody answers my phone while I'm away from it.

 

Don't know about these hotels that demand names to transfer you to a room... seems like a good idea for most of their guests but damned inconvenient for either side on escort appointments! It cost an escort visiting LA an appointment recently, so either side should find out if the hotel does this if they give out the hotel number and room number thinking they're all set...

[nate_sf]

>Don't know about these hotels that demand names to transfer

>you to a room... seems like a good idea for most of their

>guests but damned inconvenient for either side on escort

>appointments!

 

My experience lately is that pretty much all the hotels are following this practice now, from the most modest to the most expensive, so it creates a hurdle. You have to either ask for the client's full name and room number, or go the cell phone route.

 

This was discussed on here a while back and someone suggested checking in with two names (real and alias) and explaining that the "other guest" would be arriving later. The alias would be the name to give to an escort, which could then be used to confirm the appointment. I haven't tried this myself so would be curious to know how well it works, but seems like a good approach.

[Bilbo]

How aprospos for me that this should come up today. Last night, after a week of one appointment per night - which doesn't happen to me that often any more but has lately looked like it is going to try to come together almost every other week what with new regulars - just last night I had another no show from a guy who has been doing that to us a lot lately. In fact, when I got back from vacation, Cub had announced to me that this man was not going to be allowed to make appointments any more. Unfortunately, I answered the phone this time and didn't realize it was the same guy till too late.

 

He has a very sweet voice, and it sounds like he really respects me and can learn from interaction with me, BUT there were some signals looking back on it which I figure I should have picked up on. It would have saved my pets from an hour or more of being locked up in the master bedroom. A. - He called back and asked if he could come directly from work and have a shower here before the session. Since he's been here before and knows me, this is an odd question. Of course he could. B. - Since he's been here before, it was amazing that he bobbled my address not just once but several times on both phone calls. So there is another failsafe - If the man is coming to you, having him repeat your address to make sure that he wrote it down correctly shouldn't be an imposition.

[Guest BenAJ]

One of the hazards of this job....unfortunately. When you first start it is very annoying but you will get used to it. In time, as some of the others mentioned you will be able to eliminate some potential no shows ahead of time.

 

Welcome to the wonderful world of escorting and welcome to this site!

[Guest fukamarine]

>This was discussed on here a while back and someone suggested

>checking in with two names (real and alias) and explaining

>that the "other guest" would be arriving later. The alias

>would be the name to give to an escort, which could then be

>used to confirm the appointment. I haven't tried this myself

>so would be curious to know how well it works, but seems like

>a good approach.

 

Wouldn't this put you in the position of having to pay a higher rate for double occupancy? That would be a deterant for me!

 

fukamarine

[TightBodyTouch]

A common concern for any and all of us, Ethan. As other have pointed out there is no guaranteed way of guessing when a client may back out at the last minute but all the methods of looking out for the signals mentioned by the other guys are good ones to follow after. Being in good contact with your clients prior to meeting with prompt and clear communication is always helpful and though some clients may fail to show then, at least, you may always carry the satisfaction that you were professional when they were not.

 

Many of my clients stay on the conceirge level of a hotel where I am only granted access by their accompaniment or expressed permission. I make it clear to these gentlemen that I will need a way to contact them in the case that I am unable to enter their floor of the hotel. We all understand our clients' needs for discretion but since erratic business schedules or personal matters directly affect our time as escorts then it isn't inappropriate to let your clients know that you appreciate a means of reaching them for both of your needs. I even tell my clients that I don't appreciate "playing it by ear" when it comes to my time.

 

In the most recent experience of a failed attempt to meet I arrived to a hotel at the agreed upon time and location. I already had room number and details about my clients in hand. As in your situation, I had called to confirm and the client was not to be reached. Rather than turn around and go home however, I went to the hotel and knocked oh his door to give him that last benefit of the doubt. After no answer I returned to the reception desk to flirt with the night desk clerk whereupon I borrowed his pen and hotel stationary to leave my would-be client a hand-written note to express my regret that he could not make our appointment. I left the note for him and headed home with the gratification that I had made every attempt to meet him. With my phone message and note I felt he would have no amunition with which to claim that I was the no-show. For me, not only was that gratification but a conclusion.

[LovesYng]

>

>This was discussed on here a while back and someone

>suggested

>checking in with two names (real and alias) and explaining

>that the "other guest" would be arriving later. The alias

>would be the name to give to an escort, which could then be

>used to confirm the appointment. I haven't tried this

>myself

>so would be curious to know how well it works, but seems

>like

>a good approach.

>

>Wouldn't this put you in the position of having to pay a

>higher rate for double occupancy? That would be a deterant for

>me!

>

>fukamarine

>

 

I travel a lot for work and I always sign in with two (2) names, the second person will arrive later and I tell the desk. I stay at well known hotels (Hilton Family Hotels) and have never been charge for the second person, yes this works very very well when meeting escorts :+

[Prime Muscle]

Not that I'm the fatherly type but just a piece of advice - be very careful about renting a hotel room yourself. If your client wants to meet at a hotel and asks you to rent the room with the promise that he'll pay for it later -- I would suggest to walk away. Also be careful of driving long distances or taking a taxi, etc.