AVOIDING FLAKES/FAKES/CANCELLATIONS

[+ 5280Dane]

I have seen an uptick in deposit demands lately, and particularly from new escorts. As a client, I will never pay a deposit for someone without a solid reputation. That said, I’m a paying member of RM too and that should say something about my trustworthiness as a provider can easily seek feedback from others I’ve reviewed from the site. I would consider paying a deposit for someone solid, but wouldn’t like it much. If I cancel and try to rebook, a deposit request is fair. I have had to cancel due to events outside of my control, life does happen, and Ive had others cancel legitimately on me too. And yes, I’ve had flakes, but rarely on RM. End of day, those with integrity end up having the best time. I think there are some good ideas on here to use as a checklist to see if a deposit request is warranted or not. There are still plenty of ways to move money and limit where such information is stored. Easy way is transfer money to PayPal or cash app and pay that way. Then bank statement only shows money going to that app, not to whom. Verifying mobile numbers is a great idea, and if they are a member here or on RM, look for interactions like reviews to see if you can verify legitimacy. Probably too much effort for an hour booking, but for travel overnight it might be wise.

[+ bashful]

In any big city you can have someone at your home/ hotel or you can be in his place within 30 minutes.

 

Ha. Try getting to his place in downtown Chicago from a close in suburb on a Friday afternoon/early evening in 30 minutes. Never gonna happen.

[marylander1940]

Ha. Try getting to his place in downtown Chicago from a close in suburb on a Friday afternoon/early evening in 30 minutes. Never gonna happen.

 

I know O'Hare is 45 mins from Downtown Chicago... Here in DC we also have issues with traffic.

 

I wish clients had common sense when it comes to distances too.

[marylander1940]

I've told people to fuck off for asking me to go from South Austin to North Austin during rush hour on a Friday expecting the drive to only take 20 minutes.

 

Exactly!

 

Besides guys who rush others usually won't even lift their butts of the sofa to take a shower. Hypocrites!

[LivingnLA]

I'm in one of the world's largest metropolitan regions. Many providers stay or live in West LA, which I'm losely definining as Downtown LA all the way to Santa Monica. 20-30 minutes is frequently impossible even within West LA, let alone if you're outside of it and trying to travel into it.

 

I'm always surprised by providers who don't understand that asking me to come to them in West LA is asking me to eat up an entire day when the drive time to and from them plus the session time are added together.

[LivingnLA]

I'm in one of the world's largest metropolitan regions. Many providers stay or live in West LA, which I'm losely definining as Downtown LA all the way to Santa Monica. 20-30 minutes is frequently impossible even within West LA, let alone if you're outside of it and trying to travel into it.

 

I'm always surprised by providers who don't understand that asking me to come to them in West LA is asking me to eat up an entire day when the drive time to and from them plus the session time are added together.

[LivingnLA]

I'm in one of the world's largest metropolitan regions. Many providers stay or live in West LA, which I'm losely definining as Downtown LA all the way to Santa Monica. 20-30 minutes is frequently impossible even within West LA, let alone if you're outside of it and trying to travel into it.

 

I'm always surprised by providers who don't understand that asking me to come to them in West LA is asking me to eat up an entire day when the drive time to and from them plus the session time are added together.

[marylander1940]

I'm in one of the world's largest metropolitan regions. Many providers stay or live in West LA, which I'm losely definining as Downtown LA all the way to Santa Monica. 20-30 minutes is frequently impossible even within West LA, let alone if you're outside of it and trying to travel into it.

 

I'm always surprised by providers who don't understand that asking me to come to them in West LA is asking me to eat up an entire day when the drive time to and from them plus the session time are added together.

 

Do they usually drive from West LA to you?

[marylander1940]

I'm in one of the world's largest metropolitan regions. Many providers stay or live in West LA, which I'm losely definining as Downtown LA all the way to Santa Monica. 20-30 minutes is frequently impossible even within West LA, let alone if you're outside of it and trying to travel into it.

 

I'm always surprised by providers who don't understand that asking me to come to them in West LA is asking me to eat up an entire day when the drive time to and from them plus the session time are added together.

 

Do they usually drive from West LA to you?

[marylander1940]

I'm in one of the world's largest metropolitan regions. Many providers stay or live in West LA, which I'm losely definining as Downtown LA all the way to Santa Monica. 20-30 minutes is frequently impossible even within West LA, let alone if you're outside of it and trying to travel into it.

 

I'm always surprised by providers who don't understand that asking me to come to them in West LA is asking me to eat up an entire day when the drive time to and from them plus the session time are added together.

 

Do they usually drive from West LA to you?

[Maximus69]

What about those that ask you to bottom and want you to meet asap in 20-30 minutes as if escorts are always magically douched and ready to go leave whenever they get a text. Anyone that pretty much wants to meet ASAP, or soon or asks how soon can you get here I'm always a little hesitant lol

 

Also those who continually ask you about rates and asking when are you available and then go cold after, literally have had someone messaged me about meeting over 3 times now and I looked back and his first attempt of trying to meet up was like 3 years ago... sigh

[Maximus69]

What about those that ask you to bottom and want you to meet asap in 20-30 minutes as if escorts are always magically douched and ready to go leave whenever they get a text. Anyone that pretty much wants to meet ASAP, or soon or asks how soon can you get here I'm always a little hesitant lol

 

Also those who continually ask you about rates and asking when are you available and then go cold after, literally have had someone messaged me about meeting over 3 times now and I looked back and his first attempt of trying to meet up was like 3 years ago... sigh

[Maximus69]

What about those that ask you to bottom and want you to meet asap in 20-30 minutes as if escorts are always magically douched and ready to go leave whenever they get a text. Anyone that pretty much wants to meet ASAP, or soon or asks how soon can you get here I'm always a little hesitant lol

 

Also those who continually ask you about rates and asking when are you available and then go cold after, literally have had someone messaged me about meeting over 3 times now and I looked back and his first attempt of trying to meet up was like 3 years ago... sigh

[LivingnLA]

Do they usually drive from West LA to you?

 

No. Usually I go to them as I cannot host at home. They just get annoyed by how long it'll take for me to arrive.

[LivingnLA]

Do they usually drive from West LA to you?

 

No. Usually I go to them as I cannot host at home. They just get annoyed by how long it'll take for me to arrive.

[LivingnLA]

Do they usually drive from West LA to you?

 

No. Usually I go to them as I cannot host at home. They just get annoyed by how long it'll take for me to arrive.

[+ oldNbusted]

I strongly agree with the sentiment. I also find it very frustrating that the vocal majority here seems to advocate that clients flaking on escorts is unacceptable and escorts flaking on clients is perfectly acceptable. Flaking by either side is totally unacceptable. Until their is mutual respect of both client and escort time, both will suffer.

 

I also strongly disagree that there is no personal loss to a client for escort flaking. My time is valuable too.. but I will echo monetary "damages" have been incurred from lost prepaid airfare, non-refundable hotel booked, tours and event tickets that are non-refundable and non-transferable. It has gotten so bad that I no longer book overnights, weekends, vacations at all --only single hour bookings. My last booking (one hour), resulted in a no call, no show despite the escort confirming our appointment the night before. While I didn't lose any money on this one, I lost a precious day off and had to physically wait at our agreed upon place for 30 minutes until I finally decided I had had enough and went back home.

 

So to the OP, I am sorry you are having to deal with flakes. Both you and your time should be respected. To the others, please stop perpetuating the bullshit that its perfectly acceptable for an escort to flake on their clients. It most certainly is not!

 

I gave this post a thumbs down and the @down_to_business came into a political thread of mine and gave my most recents posts a thumbs down. Hilarious, and a waste of my time. Welcome to the Block Party.

[+ WilliamM]

I know O'Hare is 45 mins from Downtown Chicago... Here in DC we also have issues with traffic.

 

I wish clients had common sense when it comes to distances too.

 

I know how much time it takes to drive from Santa Monica to download LA at rush hour as opposed to later in the evening on weeknights, and I just visit southern California occasionally. I have never lived near LA.

 

Why do you believe clients do not have common sense.

 

The only explanation that makes any sense is if clients in Santa Monica are visiting and never driven on Sunset Blvd. I realize there are many alternative route and Sunset would be awful in late afternoon.

Edited May 7, 2019 by WilliamM

[marylander1940]

I know how much time it takes to drive from Santa Monica to download LA at rush hour as opposed to later in the evening on weeknights, and I just visit southern California occasionally. I have never lived near LA.

 

Why do you believe clients do not have common sense.

 

Who says I don't believe in clients?

 

There are fine and flaky people on both sides.

 

Btw I've never been in LA but I'm sure all the data about commuting provided by posters on here is accurate.

Edited May 6, 2019 by marylander1940

[Golem]

I gave this post a thumbs down and the @down_to_business came into a political thread of mine and gave my most recents posts a thumbs down. Hilarious, and a waste of my time. Welcome to the Block Party.

Also note the use of the bomb response icon ("insulting" according to the tooltip) in this thread. Yeesh.

[+ oldNbusted]

Also note the use of the bomb response icon ("insulting" according to the tooltip) in this thread. Yeesh.

 

When I talk to working guys about joining this forum, I say there are lot a thoughtful people to have good conversations with. Then I point out there are a smaller group of people with unlimited senses of entitlement cruising the board, looking to play keyboard kommando and heaven help you if you don't see every little thing as they do, or have you own opinions, as they seem to have nothing better to do than chase you around the forum, harassing you, so if you decide to participate, you'll need to decide how you want to handle them, and whatever you decide, stick to that strategy. Unsurprisingly, they have all passed on dipping a toe in here. My feeling is that for guys who are less established, it's just not worth it.

[MrMattBig]

I know how much time it takes to drive from Santa Monica to download LA at rush hour as opposed to later in the evening on weeknights, and I just visit southern California occasionally. I have never lived near LA.

 

Why do you believe clients do not have common sense.

 

The only explanation that makes any sense is if clients in Santa Monica are visiting and never driven on Sunset Blvd. I realize there are many alternative route and Sunset would be awful in late afternoon.

 

Most who expect unrealistic travel times in LA...LIVE IN LA!

My experience has been that those expectation usually come through at night time, with a possibility of PNP being involved, intensifying the "now" factor. Other theory is I believe its just because of plain selfishness and entitlement, and this goes for hiring and hookups, and for whatever reason feel the other person should defy physics to meet because they feel whatever they have to offer is that good.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Why we even care if people 'bomb' our posts is beyond me. You can be loved or you can be honest: You can rarely be both.

 

We won't always agree... And that's a good thing.

[Golem]

Excuse me, you're interrupting my insecurity with that honesty.

 

(Part of what makes you so hot, really. Le sigh.)

[tenderloin]

I strongly agree with the sentiment. I also find it very frustrating that the vocal majority here seems to advocate that clients flaking on escorts is unacceptable and escorts flaking on clients is perfectly acceptable. Flaking by either side is totally unacceptable. Until their is mutual respect of both client and escort time, both will suffer.

 

I also strongly disagree that there is no personal loss to a client for escort flaking. My time is valuable too.. but I will echo monetary "damages" have been incurred from lost prepaid airfare, non-refundable hotel booked, tours and event tickets that are non-refundable and non-transferable. It has gotten so bad that I no longer book overnights, weekends, vacations at all --only single hour bookings. My last booking (one hour), resulted in a no call, no show despite the escort confirming our appointment the night before. While I didn't lose any money on this one, I lost a precious day off and had to physically wait at our agreed upon place for 30 minutes until I finally decided I had had enough and went back home.

 

So to the OP, I am sorry you are having to deal with flakes. Both you and your time should be respected. To the others, please stop perpetuating the bullshit that its perfectly acceptable for an escort to flake on their clients. It most certainly is not!

 

Thank you for this. Perfect.